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51 The parties' competing arguments as to the interpretation of ss 5 and 5B, as put in relation to the respondents' objection to competency, were summarised in Tickle v Giggle No 1 at [15]–[17], and noted at [18] to be irreconcilable:

[17] The applicant's response is to agree that for the purposes of s 5 of the SD Act, a person's sex is that of a man or a woman, and it is for that reason that the case is not framed by reference to s 5, noting that there is no barrier to a transgender woman being a woman for the purposes of sex discrimination. Rather, the applicant argues, the case alleges gender discrimination on the basis that the applicant is a transgender woman, not a cisgender woman. The case is instead brought under s 5B because the condition complained about is that it has allowed a transgender woman to be treated less favourably than a cisgender woman. The applicant alleges being removed from the App upon the basis of gender identity as a transgender woman, which does not, on that case, in any way pertain to the treatment of a man.

[18] The difference between the applicant's case and the respondents' case is stark and wholly irreconcilable. One will ultimately be found to be right, and the other wrong. This is not the point at which that determination is to be made unless the applicant's case is manifestly untenable. The arguments for the respondents do not go so far as to convince me that is so, largely because the SD Act deliberately draws a distinction between sex discrimination and gender discrimination, for which the metes and bounds of the latter have not been tested. Nor can they be appropriately tested in the course of a relatively short interlocutory dispute.

52 The respondents' position on that issue was put more cogently and coherently at that interlocutory stage than at trial. Given that deficiency, I presume in their favour that their position remained unchanged in relation to the substantive hearing in this matter. They contend that Ms Tickle's case as pleaded, while purporting to engage the gender identity discrimination jurisdiction in s 5B of the SDA, is really directed to the definition of sex discrimination in s 5, and that the now amended statement of claim conflates sex and gender.

53 The respondents' position remains, as best as I was able to determine given the way in which it was presented, which failed to substantially engage with the real legal issues and facts in this case, that sex refers only to biological features which produce an immutable and binary position of man or woman, while gender identity is directed only to a person's individual identity as characterised by how a person signals their gender to others, referring to behavioural features, psychology and society. I similarly presume that Ms Tickle maintains her agreement with an aspect of that stance, as articulated in her submissions on the respondents' interlocutory notice of objection to competency (which was itself incompetent), being that, for the purposes of s 5 of the SDA, a person's sex is that of a man or a woman. It is for that reason that her case is not framed by reference to s 5, as her sex is now that of a woman. In the same submissions, she noted that there is no barrier to a transgender woman being a woman for the purposes of sex


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