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Latest comment: 8 years ago by John Vandenberg in topic Redirects

Kipling died 18 January 1936. His works are not in the Public Domain prior to 1 January 2007. --Kébec 15:05, 22 June 2006 (UTC)Reply

With the exception of works published in the US prior to 1923. All his works were published in US as well as elsewhere. This is why the latter part (post-1923) of the chronological list are not redlinks. --BirgitteSB 15:16, 22 June 2006 (UTC)Reply

Redirects

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Latest comment: 8 years ago4 comments2 people in discussion

Currently redirects to Departmental Ditties and Ballads and Barrack-Room Ballads:

Currently redirects to Departmental Ditties (versions page):

Now a versions page:

Created versions pages at Barrack-Room Ballads and Departmental Ditties. Londonjackbooks (talk) 12:27, 9 July 2016 (UTC)Reply

List of Works

  • Departmental Ditties and Other Verses (1886)
  • Departmental Ditties, Barrack-Room Ballads and Other Verses (1890)
  • Barrack-Room Ballads and Other Verses (1892)
  • Ballads and Barrack-Room Ballads (1892)
  • The Seven Seas (contains 18 Barrack-Room Ballads) (1896)
  • Departmental Ditties and Ballads and Barrack-Room Ballads (1899, 1914, 1919)
Since they are quite interwoven, a 'See also' cross-linking each of the versions pages would be appropriate? John Vandenberg (chat) 13:42, 9 July 2016 (UTC)Reply
@John Vandenberg: Done. But now thinking that the versions pages should technically be disambiguation pages considering works content? Thoughts? Londonjackbooks (talk) 14:02, 9 July 2016 (UTC)Reply
I tend to consider 'disambiguation' on Wikisource as unrelated works with the same/very similar title, and versions for overlapping works. I doubt we have an appropriate page type & template for messy situations like these.
One way to try to bring order to this lovely mess is to match the Wikisource pages up to Wikipedia, using Wikidata to add more detail and structure and clearly defined linkages between our pages. Currently, our Barrack-Room Ballads is coupled to w:Barrack-Room Ballads via d:Q4863158. On Wikidata it is an instance of a "book", but the Wikipedia article is not about a book. The Wikipedia article is about a rather fluid collection of related poems, and in true Wikipedia fashion jumps all over the place. Most of the links to w:Barrack-Room Ballads are about the 1892 publication. The Encyclopedia Brittanica entry appears to be more firmly focused on the 1892 publication.
For that page, IMO versions is more appropriate, but only slightly. There are multiple versions of the collection that is "Barrack-Room Ballads". However "Barrack-Room Ballads" is also a series, with different subsets of it appearing in distinct works.
Stepping back, ideally we could build a web of these works in Wikidata, and then on each of these pages we could have an interactive diagram showing the title term as the focus, and the user can see how it relates to, and navigate to, the item they desire. Sort of like http://wiki.polyfra.me/ , which doesnt do very well when zoomed into "Barrack-Room Ballads", but using Wikidata which can have a lot more related items about each version. John Vandenberg (chat) 05:15, 4 August 2016 (UTC)Reply

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  • Actions and Reactions
    • An Habitation Enforced
    • The Recall (poem)
    • Garm — a Hostage
    • The Power of the Dog (poem)
    • The Mother Hive
    • The Bees and the Flies (poem)
    • With the Night Mail
    • The Four Angels (poem)
    • A Deal in Cotton
    • The New Knighthood (poem)
    • The Puzzler
    • The Puzzler (poem)
    • Little Foxes
    • Gallio's Song (poem)
    • The House Surgeon
    • The Rabbi's Song (poem)
  • The Day's Work
    • The Bridge-Builders
    • A Walking Delegate
    • The Ship That Found Herself
    • The Tomb of His Ancestors
    • The Devil and the Deep Sea
    • William the Conqueror
    • .007
    • The Maltese Cat
    • "Bread Upon the Waters"
    • An Error in the Fourth Dimension
    • My Sunday at Home
    • The Brushwood Boy
  • Debits and Credits (1926); except for "Sea Constables", first US publication 1915, and "In the Interests of the Brethren", 1918
  • A Diversity of Creatures
    • As Easy as A.B.C.
    • MacDonough's Song (poem)
    • Friendly Brook
    • The Land (poem)
    • In the Same Boat
    • "Helen All Alone" (poem)
    • The Honours of War
    • The Children (poem)
    • The Dog Hervey
    • The Comforters (poem)
    • The Village That Voted the Earth Was Flat
    • The Press (poem)
    • In the Presence
    • Jobson's Amen (poem)
    • Regulus
    • A Translation (poem)
    • The Edge of the Evening
    • Rebirth (poem)
    • The Horse Marines
    • The Legend of Mirth (poem)
    • "My Son's Wife"
    • The Floods (poem)
    • The Fabulists (poem)
    • The Vortex
    • The Song of Seven Cities (poem)
    • "Swept and Garnished"
    • Mary Postgate
    • The Beginnings (poem)
  • The Jungle Book
    • Mowgli's Brothers
    • Hunting-Song of the Seeonee Pack (poem)
    • Kaa's Hunting
    • Road-Song of the Bandar-Log (poem)
    • "Tiger! Tiger!"
    • Mowgli's Song (poem)
    • The White Seal
    • Lukannon (poem)
    • "Rikki-Tikki-Tavi"
    • Darzee's Chaunt (poem)
    • Toomai of the Elephants
    • Shiv and the Grasshopper (poem)
    • Her Majesty's Servants
    • Parade-Song of the Camp Animals (poem)
  • Just So Stories
    • How the Whale Got His Throat
    • How the Camel Got His Hump
    • How the Rhinoceros Got His Skin
    • How the Leopard Got His Spots
    • The Elephant's Child
    • The Sing-Song of Old Man Kangaroo
    • The Beginning of the Armadillos
    • How the First Letter Was Written
    • How the Alphabet Was Made
    • The Crab That Played with the Sea
    • The Cat That Walked by Himself
    • The Butterfly That Stamped
    • The Tabu Tale
  • Land and Sea Tales for Scouts and Guides
    • Winning the Victoria Cross
    • The Way That He Took
    • An Unqualified Pilot
    • His Gift
    • A Flight of Fact
    • "Stalky"
    • The Burning of the Sarah Sands
    • The Parable of Boy Jones
    • The Bold 'Prentice
    • The Son of His Father
    • An English School
  • Life’s Handicap
    • The Lang Men o’ Larut
    • Reingelder and the German Flag
    • The Wandering Jew
    • Through the Fire
    • The Finances of the Gods
    • The Amir's Homily
    • Jews in Shushan
    • The Limitations of Pambé Serang
    • Little Tobrah
    • Bubbling Well Road
    • "The City of Dreadful Night"
    • Georgie Porgie
    • Naboth
    • The Dream of Duncan Parrenness
    • The Incarnation of Krishna Mulvaney
    • The Courting of Dinah Shadd
    • On Greenhow Hill
    • The Man Who Was
    • The Head of the District
    • Without Benefit of Clergy
    • At the End of the Passage
    • The Mutiny of the Mavericks
    • The Mark of the Beast
    • The Return of Imray
    • Namgay Doola
    • Bertran and Bimi
    • Moti Guj—Mutineer
  • Limits and Renewals
    • Dayspring Mishandled
    • Gertrude's Prayer (poem)
    • Dinah in Heaven (poem)
    • The Woman in His Life
    • Four-Feet (poem)
    • The Totem (poem)
    • The Tie
    • The Church That Was at Antioch
    • The Disciple (poem)
    • The Playmate (poem)
    • Aunt Ellen
    • Naaman's Song (poem)
    • The Mother's Son (poem)
    • Fairy-Kist
    • The Coiner (poem)
    • A Naval Mutiny
    • The Debt
    • Akbar's Bridge (poem)
    • The Manner of Men
    • At His Execution (poem)
    • Unprofessional
    • The Threshold (poem)
    • Neighbours (poem)
    • Beauty Spots
    • The Expert (poem)
    • The Curé (poem)
    • The Miracle of Saint Jubanus
    • Song of Seventy Horses (poem)
    • Hymn to Physical Pain (poem)
    • The Tender Achilles
    • The Penalty (poem)
    • Uncovenanted Mercies
    • Azrael's Count (poem)
  • Many Inventions
    • To the True Romance (poem)
    • The Disturber of Traffic
    • A Conference of the Powers
    • My Lord the Elephant
    • One View of the Question
    • "The Finest Story in the World"
    • His Private Honour
    • A Matter of Fact
    • The Lost Legion
    • In the Rukh
    • "Brugglesmith"
    • "Love-o'-Women"
    • The Record of Badalia Herodsfoot
    • Judson and the Empire
    • The Children of the Zodiac
    • Envoy (poem)
  • The Phantom ’Rickshaw
    • The Phantom ’Rickshaw
    • My Own True Ghost Story
    • The Strange Ride of Morrowbie Jukes
    • The Man Who Would Be King
  • Plain Tales from the Hills
    • Lispeth
    • Three and—an Extra
    • Thrown Away
    • Miss Youghal's Sais
    • "Yoked with an Unbeliever"
    • False Dawn
    • The Rescue of Pluffles
    • Cupid's Arrows
    • Haunted Subalterns
    • The Three Musketeers
    • His Chance in Life
    • Watches of the Night
    • The Other Man
    • Consequences
    • The Conversion of Aurelian McGoggin
    • The Taking of Lungtungpen
    • Bitters Neat
    • A Germ-Destroyer
    • Kidnapped
    • The Arrest of Lieutenant Golightly
    • In the House of Suddhoo
    • His Wedded Wife
    • The Broken-Link Handicap
    • Beyond the Pale
    • In Error
    • A Bank Fraud
    • Tods' Amendment
    • The Daughter of the Regiment
    • In the Pride of His Youth
    • Pig
    • The Rout of the White Hussars
    • The Bronckhorst Divorce-Case
    • Venus Annodomini
    • The Bisara of Pooree
    • A Friend's Friend
    • The Gate of the Hundred Sorrows
    • The Madness of Private Ortheris
    • The Story of Muhammad Din
    • On the Strength of a Likeness
    • Wressley of the Foreign Office
    • By Word of Mouth
    • To Be Filed for Reference
  • Puck of Pook’s Hill
    • Puck's Song (poem)
    • Weland's Sword
    • A Tree Song (poem)
    • Young Men at the Manor
    • Sir Richard's Song (poem)
    • Harp Song of the Dane Women (poem)
    • The Knights of the Joyous Venture
    • Thorkild's Song (poem)
    • Old Men at Pevensey
    • The Runes on Weland's Sword (poem)
    • A Centurion of the Thirtieth
    • A British-Roman Song (poem)
    • On the Great Wall
    • A Song to Mithras (poem)
    • The Winged Hats
    • A Pict Song (poem)
    • Hal o' the Draft
    • A Smugglers' Song (poem)
    • The Bee Boy's Song (poem)
    • "Dymchurch Flit"
    • A Three-Part Song (poem)
    • Song of the Fifth River (poem)
    • The Treasure and the Law
    • The Children's Song (poem)
  • Rewards and Fairies
    • A Charm (poem)
    • Introduction
    • Cold Iron
    • Cold Iron (poem)
    • The Two Cousins (poem)
    • Gloriana
    • The Looking-Glass (poem)
    • A Truthful Song (poem)
    • The Wrong Thing
    • King Henry VII and the Shipwrights (poem)
    • The Way Through the Woods (poem)
    • Marklake Witches
    • Brookland Road (poem)
    • The Run of the Downs (poem)
    • The Knife and the Naked Chalk
    • Song of the Men's Side (poem)
    • Philadelphia (poem)
    • Brother Square-Toes
    • If—— (poem)
    • A St. Helena Lullaby (poem)
    • "A Priest in Spite of Himself"
    • "Poor Honest Men" (poem)
    • Eddi's Service (poem)
    • The Conversion of St. Wilfrid
    • Song of the Red War-Boat (poem)
    • An Astrologer's Song (poem)
    • A Doctor of Medicine
    • "Our Fathers of Old" (poem)
    • The Thousandth Man (poem)
    • Simple Simon
    • Frankie's Trade (poem)
    • The Ballad of Minepit Shaw (poem)
    • The Tree of Justice
    • A Carol (poem)
  • The Second Jungle Book
    • How Fear Came
    • The Law of the Jungle (poem)
    • The Miracle of Purun Bhagat
    • A Song of Kabir (poem)
    • Letting in the Jungle
    • Mowgli's Song Against People (poem)
    • The Undertakers
    • A Ripple Song (poem)
    • The King's Ankus
    • The Song of the Little Hunter (poem)
    • Quiquern
    • "Angutivaun Taina" (poem)
    • Red Dog
    • Chil's Song (poem)
    • The Spring Running
    • The Outsong (poem)
  • Soldiers Three
    • The Three Musketeers
    • The Taking of Lungtungpen
    • The Daughter of the Regiment
    • The Madness of Private Ortheris
    • The God from the Machine
    • Private Learoyd's Story
    • The Solid Muldoon
    • With the Main Guard
    • Black Jack
    • The Big Drunk Draf'
    • L'Envoi (poem)
  • Soldiers Three/The Story of the Gadsbys/In Black and White
    • The God from the Machine
    • Of Those Called
    • Private Learoyd's Story
    • The Big Drunk Draf'
    • The Wreck of the Visigoth
    • The Solid Muldoon
    • With the Main Guard
    • In the Matter of a Private
    • Black Jack
    • Poor Dear Mamma
    • The World Without
    • The Tents of Kedar
    • With Any Amazement
    • The Garden of Eden
    • Fatima
    • The Valley of the Shadow
    • The Swelling of Jordan
    • Dray Wara Yow Dee
    • The Judgment of Dungara
    • At Howli Thana
    • Gemini
    • At Twenty-Two
    • In Flood Time
    • The Sending of Dana Da
    • On the City Wall
  • Stalky and Co.
    • "In Ambush"
    • Slaves of the Lamp, Part I
    • An Unsavoury Interlude
    • The Impressionists
    • The Moral Reformers
    • A Little Prep.
    • The Flag of Their Country
    • The Last Term
    • Slaves of the Lamp, Part II
  • Thy Servant a Dog Told by Boots
    • Thy Servant a Dog
    • The Great Play Hunt
    • Toby Dog
  • Thy Servant a Dog and Other Stories
    • Thy Servant a Dog
    • The Great Play Hunt
    • Toby Dog
    • The Supplication of the Black Aberdeen
    • A Sea Dog
    • His Apologies
    • Teem — a Treasure-Hunter
  • Traffics and Discoveries
    • From the Masjid-al-Aqsa of Sayyid Ahmed (Wahabi) (poem)
    • The Captive
    • Poseidon's Law (poem)
    • The Bonds of Discipline
    • The Runners (poem)
    • A Sahibs' War
    • The Wet Litany (poem)
    • "Their Lawful Occasions"
    • The King's Task (poem)
    • The Comprehension of Private Copper
    • The Necessitarian (poem)
    • Steam Tactics
    • Kaspar's Song in "Varda" (poem)
    • "Wireless"
    • Song of the Old Guard (poem)
    • The Army of a Dream
    • The Return of the Children (poem)
    • "They"
    • From Lyden's "Irenius" (poem)
    • Mrs. Bathurst
    • "Our Fathers Also" (poem)
    • Below the Mill Dam
  • Under the Deodars
    • The Education of Otis Yeere
    • At the Pit's Mouth
    • A Wayside Comedy
    • The Hill of Illusion
    • A Second-Rate Woman
    • Only a Subaltern
    • In the Matter of a Private
    • The Enlightenments of Pagett, M.P.
  • Wee Willie Winkie
    • Wee Willie Winkie
    • Baa Baa, Black Sheep
    • His Majesty the King
    • The Drums of the Fore and Aft

Placement of "We and They"

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Latest comment: 15 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Has been inserted by u/k, and not sure where it should be placed in the opus. -- billinghurst (talk) 07:28, 4 April 2009 (UTC)Reply

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