Author talk:Alfred Marks

Sources

Notes

• The position of the Post Office Savings Bank and how to deal with its deficit of £11,000,000 states former general manager of the Central Bank of London.

• Numerous letters to the editor of The Times from 1889-1909 (search "Alfred Marks" and "Adelaide-road") on matters of banks and van Eyck

Alfred Marks

It seems to me that bank manager and the author of Tyburn Tree are different persons. Here are my steps:
1) Blurb on Tyburn Tree refers to other works of Mr. Marks, specifically on Van Eyck;
2) Pieces on Van Eyck appeared in Athenaeum and Transactions of Royal Literature Society;
3) A bit earlier there are pieces on da Vinci by Mr. Marks also in Athenaeum and Transactions of Royal Literature Society
4) In 'The Notebooks of Leonardo Da Vinci Volume 2 Translated by Jean Paul Richter 1888", author of the above articles is referred to as "Mr. Alfred Marks, of Long Ditton"
5) I am only able to find Alfred Pally Marks of Long Ditton, very likely the son of Mr. Marks in question.
6) If you can find anything further about Mr. Marks please let me know. I am interested in his book "Death of Sir Edmund Godfrey". Cheers, Captain Nemo (talk) 02:54, 15 August 2015 (UTC).

@Captain Nemo: Quite possibly. It was a bit of a last minute thing yesterday, and the refs that I had were a little confused. It is on my revisit list for today, and it is why I didn't hack into WD. Once I have resolved the issue around these bot edits not bot editing, I will be able to get back to it. — billinghurst sDrewth 03:40, 15 August 2015 (UTC)

Thanks! Cheers, Captain Nemo (talk) 04:39, 15 August 2015 (UTC).

@Captain Nemo: FOREST AND FRIGGING TREES! Hoppus Marks is citing her own husband's works. This is what happens when things happen at the last moment, and one drops notes for later. — billinghurst sDrewth 11:12, 16 August 2015 (UTC)

@Captain Nemo: would appear to be same person — billinghurst sDrewth 13:57, 16 August 2015 (UTC)

@Billinghurst: Great data mining. Yep, seems to be the same person, very literate for a bank manager. VIAF cluster is very confused, conflates many different people. Captain Nemo (talk) 02:11, 17 August 2015 (UTC).

@Captain Nemo: I think that the marriage (his second), how that came about with MAMH, and his introduction to literature would be an interesting story in itself [I think that his father was a coachbuilder, though I didn't dig too far].

I am not sure that any of the authority control data is for this person, and have no comfort level with it. He is one of those obscure authors lost in time, especially where a common name exists AND the AC data is unreliable, and I think that they know it. FWIW re his work that you mentioned, seems quirky enough for my grade of editing, at the same time, it might make a really good PotM for January when we do quirky works. — billinghurst sDrewth 02:55, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

Son

Baptism of son

• Anglican Parish Registers. Woking, Surrey, England: Surrey History Centre.

Name: Alfred Pally Marks
Baptism Date: 10 Jun 1882
Archive Provided Parish: Long Ditton, St Mary
Parish as it Appears: Long Ditton
Father: Alfred Marks
Mother: Emmeline Marks
Reference Number: 3833/1/6

Birth of son

• FreeBMD birth

Name: Alfred Pally Marks
Registration Year: 1870, Sep Q.
Registration district: Kingston
Volume: 2a
Page: 287

Census

• England 1881; Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 839; Folio: 128; Page: 7; GSU roll: 1341198

Name: Alfred Marks
Age: 47
Relationship to Head: Head
Spouse: Emmeline Marks
Gender: Male
Where born: London, London, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Long Ditton
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
Street address: Portsmouth Rd
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Secty To A Public Comp (Clerk)
Registration district: Kingston
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 839
Folio: 128
Page Number: 7
Household Members:
Name Age
Alfred Marks 47
Emmeline Marks 37
Alfred P. Marks 10
Claude Marks 6
Mildred Marks 5
Emmeline Marks 4
Harriet Clark 20
Bessie Rumbold 17

• England 1861; Source Citation: Class: RG 9; Piece: 182; Folio: 23; Page: 46; GSU roll: 542587

Name: Alfred Marks
Age: 27
Relation: Son
Mother's name: Elizabeth P Marks
Gender: Male
Where born: Marylebone, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Holborn St George the Martyr
County/Island: Middlesex
Registration district: Holborn
Sub-registration district: St George the Martyr and St Andrew Western
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 206
Piece: 182
Folio: 23
Page Number: 46
Household Members:
Name Age
Elizabeth P Marks 56
Fanny Marks 29
Alfred Marks 27; Clerk in Banking House
Edward Marks 25
Elizabeth Jones 16

• England 1901; Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 124; Folio: 43; Page: 16

Name: Alfred Marks
Age: 67
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Spouse: Mary A M Marks
Birth Place: Marylebone, London, England
Civil Parish: Hampstead
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary the Virgin Aldermansbury
County/Island: London
Registration district: Hampstead
Sub-registration district: Hampstead
ED, institution, or vessel: 27
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 124
Folio: 43
Page Number: 16
Household schedule number: 75
Alfred Marks 67 Bank manager (retired)
Mary A M Marks 58 Authoress
Claud H I Marks 26
Mildred F Marks 25
Emiline Marks 24
Matilda R McKay 10

Probate

• Principal Probate Registry. Calendar of the Grants of Probate and Letters of Administration made in the Probate Registries of the High Court of Justice in England. > 1912 > M > p.123

MARKS Alfred of 155 Adelaide-road South Hampstead Middlesex died 1 September 1912 at Side View Londes-road Deal Probate London 19 December to Mary Anne Martha Marks widow and Alfred Pally Marks esquire. Effect £4233 0s. 7d.

Birth

Son of John Isaac Stacy Marks (1802–1877) and Elizabeth Pally Harrison(1804-1868) (m. 1825-06-04, Saint George, Bloomsbury)

• Dr Williams' Library, Index to Birth Certificates, 1828-1837 (Non-conformist)

Name: Alfred Marks
Birth Date: 17 Sep 1833
Birth Place: Marylebone, Middlesex, England
Gender: Male
Event Type: Birth
Father: John Isaac
Mother: Elizabeth Pally
Piece Title: Piece 4674: