Index talk:IMSLP278935-PMLP144608-the dancing master10.pdf

Quick notes

• Use {{ls}} (long S, ſ)
• Use curly quotes
• Use {{u| · }} for  · , {{u| : }} for  : , and {{u|∴}} for ∴
• For the simpler figures, use tables like so:

  <table class{{=}}"__figure-table">
  <tr><td>☉</td><td>☉</td><td>☉</td><td>☉</td></tr>
  <tr><td>☽</td><td>☽</td><td>☽</td><td>☽</td></tr>
  </table>
  

  ☉	☉	☉	☉
  ☽	☽	☽	☽

  <table class{{=}}"__figure-table">
  <tr><td>☉</td><td>{{rotate|90|☾}}</td><td>☉</td></tr>
  <tr><td>☾</td><td></td><td>☽</td></tr>
  <tr><td>☉</td><td>{{rotate|90|☽}}</td><td>☉</td></tr>
  </table>
  

  ☉	☾	☉
  ☾		☽
  ☉	☽	☉

  The direction of the crescents shows the direction that the dancers are facing and should be preserved.

• For score syntax, see page 182 of the 1686 edition.
• It is tricky to impossible to transcribe some features of these scores accurately. See the first edition talk page for details and tips.
• There are more scans of this and later editions at https://imslp.org/wiki/The_Dancing_Master_(Playford,_John). Content in successive editions overlaps heavily; copying content, for instance from Index:IMSLP278935-PMLP144608-the dancing master10.pdf, may save a lot of effort retyping things.

Better scans

There is a better scan of same print at https://ks15.imslp.org/files/imglnks/usimg/a/a8/IMSLP278935-PMLP144608-the_dancing_master10.pdf; we could swap the bas image out for this one.

https://imslp.org/wiki/The_Dancing_Master_(Playford,_John) has an index of other editions (not 1686). Editions are very similar; I started digitizing the oldest on the grounds that I could then modify it into later editions. But really digitizing them in any order would work just as well. HLHJ (talk) 01:33, 15 October 2024 (UTC)

Sounds like a good plan to me! (The reason I digitized this specific edition is that it's the first one to have "Love lies a bleeding".) —CalendulaAsteraceae (talk • contribs) 02:06, 15 October 2024 (UTC)

That seems like an excellent reason. Here's the better scan uploaded, Commons:File:IMSLP278935-PMLP144608-the dancing master10.pdf, but I'm not sure how to swap it out. I'll try to get around to figuring it out.

It seems Playford they published 18 editions between 1651 and 1728, some of them in in up to four versions.

https://playforddances.com/indexes/publication-information/

If we want to include all the dances in those 18+, almost all would be covered with three texts; the first edition, the 1689 edition, and the 18th edition. This will omit only 6 dances, found only in the following editions:

Silver Faulken, The 2

Touch and Take 2-3

Dunkirk 3A

Bellamira 7C

Cornish Squire, The 9A-9B

Young Sir Solomon 9B

The later versions may be better, as in this version of Love Lies a-bleeding with better dance instructions. If I had a scan of the 1689 edition, which is very similar to this one, I'd suggest replacing this scan with that, instead.

Of course, well after Playford's death they published about five more versions, if I understand this correctly, containing a lot of new dances: https://playforddances.com/publication-information-23/ I'm inclined to ignore those for now. HLHJ (talk) 02:05, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

This is very thorough; well done! Since the new scan is PDF as opposed to DJVU, the easiest thing to do is probably just moving the index and its associated pages, which I can do in a minute. In general, you can ask for that kind of move at Wikisource:Bot requests, or Wikisource:Administrators' noticeboard if there are only a few pages to move. —CalendulaAsteraceae (talk • contribs) 05:36, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for the sueful information; iI will do that in future. Thank you also for the undeserved praise; it seems I got it all wrong!

By taking the 1686 edition (which you just kindly subbed in the new scan for) instead of the 1689 edition I think we omit only one piece, "The Mask" (found in 7B-16, but not in the 18th ed.). So I withdraw my statement that the 1689 would in theory be better; it would not really, and the 1686 has the advantage in being the last the original compiler worked on. There is a copy of the 17th edition here: https://imslp.org/wiki/File:PMLP144608-bim_eighteenth-century_the-dancing-master-vol_1721.pdf The 17th and 18th editions (1721 and ~1728) seems to contain identical sets of pieces.

Only six odd pieces out was wildly optimistic; I missed a bunch. I now make it 17 (18 counting The Mask).

• Beveridge’s Ground, Mr. 9-10
• Cornish Squire, The 9A-9B
• Dunkirk 3A
• Edinburgh Castle 9B-16
• Hey to the Camp 11-16
• Highlander’s March, The 3A-3B
• Indian Queen, The 9-13
• Last New French Rigaudon, The 11-13
• New Bourrée, The 9-13
• Pye Corner 9-10
• Silver Faulken, The 2
• Sword Dance, The 11A-13
• Touch and Take 2-3
• Trip to the Jubilee, as ’tis Danc’d at the Playhouse, The 9B-16
• Tythe Pig 1695 9-10
• Wa Is Me, What Mun I Do! 9A-12
• Young Sir Solomon 9B

The 1686 edition was the last one John Playford supervised, and it is thought he died that year; after that, things passed to his son Henry (with the assistance John Playford's nephew, a printer also called John Playford); in 1694, Henry he sold the copyrights to someone named Heppinstall,[1] but continued as publisher (?) until 1706, when a John Young took over for the 13th ed.. It seems that two more volumes were added to Playford's dances, the second in 1713 and the third in 1719.[2]

So once we get the 1651 and 1686 ones done, the 1721 17th ed would be a logical next step, as would the second and third volumes. I think it would be an excellent use of Template:Auxiliary Table of Contents to index all of the distinct dances (some of which are known under multiple names) in all the versions.

I rather gave up on this because of the bug with enabling the older notations, intending to come back when the bug is fixed. But I'm delighted to see others working on it! HLHJ (talk) 20:58, 19 October 2024 (UTC)

Figure tables

Thank you for working on this, CalendulaAsteraceae. Re [3], reducing it any more ruins the proportions of the circle. While it's not as compact as the original, and it isn't vertically centered the same way, I can't see an obvious way to improve it. I'm not sure how to put an alt text on it, either. HLHJ (talk) 04:35, 7 November 2024 (UTC)

I've gotten the vertical centering to work. —CalendulaAsteraceae (talk • contribs) 06:08, 9 November 2024 (UTC)

That looks much better! I think spaced-out symbols aren't really a problem, the distance needed is likely obvious from the dance and the pace of the movements anyway. HLHJ (talk) 01:12, 10 November 2024 (UTC)