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into a litigation experience position.

Once I joined—once I joined OMB, I—I didn't think it would look good for a career, or be doing right by my employer to just hopscotch somewhere else, so I wanted to stay a solid year at least at OMB. So, as—so, when August—when August of 2020 came around, and I was, at the time, hoping that there would be a second term, I wanted to try—after I had been there a year, wanted to try to get placed in what would be the next step in my career. I thought I had maximized the resume value of what I would have out of OMB.

And so, in my—my biggest focus—the biggest area that I thought I needed for career development was litigation experience. And so, I—there was an email exchange on September 10 of 2020 with the White House liaison at DOJ with me asking about joining DOJ in a litigation capacity. And, of the various divisions at DOJ, my background in nonprofit was civil rights, so I was not interested in going to the Civil Rights Division. I was open to exploring all the others.

I expressed that my top choice, if I could have a choice, would be the Civil Division as having the broadest portfolio of general civil litigation that I thought could be translated into a post-service private law practice.

Q Okay. Now, you mentioned reaching out, I believe you said in September, to the White House liaison for DOJ?

A In—I think she emailed me on September 10, that I had just socialized to the right people. You know, I would love to—you know, it's—during the periodic review that political staff could have with political appointees about, you know, where would you want to be later perhaps in a second term? You know, I had said DOJ, in a—in the litigation division.

And you occasionally hear of other job offers as well, where people will ask you if