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a published decision, which we won. So I—it's—my—my focus was on these monster briefs in statute books.
When comments like this would be made, I saw no role for myself in them, so I didn't focus on them beyond thinking, wow, that's—that sounds like—it sounds above my pay grade, and—and just—so—
Q So, Mr. Klukowski—
A Yes.
Q —let me just stop you. And you clearly remember that you had conversations—
A Yes.
Q —with Mr. Clark—
A Right.
Q —about Mr. Perry?
A Right.
Q Okay. I'm not asking for a specific one.
A Okay.
Q I just want to know what—generally, what Mr. Clark—what the information that he conveyed to you related to Mr. Perry was?
A Related to Mr. Perry, I don't know if—the subject of the—of the—of the part of the conversation where the name would come up was Mr. Clark saying that the President would like the Department to be doing more with regards to the 2020 election, and that Mr. Clark thought that there were additional things that the Department could do.
He made—the comment he made to me—he made a couple—is—and one of then was that he thought a lawyer for a client, or for a boss—that a lawyer should go as
