the code of what the word 'woman' actually means. Thankfully, I have the formula: 'woman' is a noun and it refers to an adult human female. We are also losing the right to even speak up and disagree about this. We are labelled vile. We are labelled bigots. But it is not hateful to ask for sex-based rights. They are, after all, originally a category of human rights. Will the Minister for Women Natalie Hutchins let women speak to her and join us on the steps of Parliament on 18 March for the listening post and actually hear what women have to say on this issue?
77 Following Mrs Deeming's speech, there was an exchange between Dr Bach and Mrs Deeming as they were leaving the Legislative Assembly Chamber.
78 Incredibly, the parties included in the Agreed Factual Narrative their disagreement about the contents of this exchange.
79 Dr Bach said in his affidavit that, following Mrs Deeming's speech, she approached him and said, "Sorry. That was the last time" (CB:32, 392[9]). He gave evidence that he "understood" her comments "to be an apology for stepping out of line with her speech in a way that was contrary to the interests and stated position of the Party".
80 Mrs Deeming said she said to Dr Bach words to the effect of, "Don't worry; that's the last one for the year" (CB:2, 68[36]) and that she meant "the last women's rights event for the year".
81 Quite how it could be imagined that their differing views about the meaning of some passing remark made by Mrs Deeming to Dr Bach could have any bearing on any serious and substantial issue in this proceeding escapes me.
82 On 11 March, Dr Bach gave an interview to Joy FM. The recording of this interview is Ex R548 and a transcript of the recording is Ex R549.
83 During the interview, Dr Bach was asked about Mrs Deeming's comments that something called "the Safe Schools program" had been devised by "paedophilia apologists". Dr Bach said in cross-examination that "paedophile" is a toxic, dreadful, homophobic and common trope used to describe members of the LGBT community and transgender people (T909.44–45, T919.43–44, T925.46–47, T926.14–15, T928.18).
