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[Australian Jewish Association] unreservedly condemns the Nazis who invaded the rally. These ugly thugs likely saw an opportunity to hijack the event for their own publicity.

The Nazis were condemned by the women's rally organisers – one contacted AJA in distress explaining what had happened. The "Let Women Speak" organisers had nothing to do with the Nazis.

It is shameful that some politicians and media are now trying to smear this women's movement with the false accusation of involvement with Nazis.

166 The leadership team was scheduled to meet with Mrs Deeming at 5pm, but she went to the wrong address and ended up being about 20 minutes late (T1146.8–19). While waiting for her, Ms Crozier, Mr Pesutto, Mr Southwick, and Dr Bach met Mr Pintos-Lopez and Mr Johnston.

167 The meeting between the leadership team and Mr Pintos-Lopez and Mr Johnston lasted about 20 minutes. It is not clear on the evidence precisely what occurred or what was discussed, however it seems that Mr Pintos-Lopez gave an account to the others of certain information he had found out, mainly about Ms Keen.

168 At 5.21pm, Mr Pesutto then sent to Mr Johnston the contents of the electronic note he had drafted in the car earlier in the day (Ex A152), set out at [162] above. Mr Johnston then sent the note to Mr Woff (CC:314).

169 After he left the meeting, Mr Johnston telephoned Mr Woff about the draft press release. Mr Woff gave evidence in cross-examination that Mr Johnston told him that "Moira was gone, and he said it's just a matter of how this plays out, referencing whether she would resign from the Parliamentary Liberal Party or whether John and … the leadership team would move a motion to expel her" (T1177.20–23).

The 19 March meeting

170 At 5.24pm, Mrs Deeming entered the meeting room with Ms Crozier, where Mr Pesutto, Mr Southwick, Dr Bach and Mr Pintos-Lopez were waiting.

171 Mr Southwick then commenced secretly to record the meeting on his mobile phone. His recordings of the meeting are Ex A227 and Ex A228.

172 One might have been excused for thinking that given that every word of the meeting was recorded (in two parts, because there was a break) there would no longer be a dispute about who


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