Lesueur
Now do you fire, or should I say sack, civil servants who are suspected of association with known communists
Shawcross
Depends entirely on what his job is. If he's a postman, for instance, or he's a lorry driver, we would say that his communist views are no danger and we shouldn't consider that we were entitled to sack him because of it. If, on the other hand, he's in a high position in which he's accessed secret information at one time or another then we sack him if it's impossible for one reason or another to transfer him to a position in which no security risk is involved. We prefer to transfer them to some other job, but if there isn't a suitable job, well, then, they're sacked.