motions, operations, and other accidents, by which their natures are distinguished, would not deprive us of the power of coming to the knowledge of them; although he should remove those operations, in which they unitedly concur, and which for that reason are of no use for the distinguishing of those natures.
Simpl.I think your dissertation to be very good.
Salv.But that the Earth, Water, Air, are of a nature equally constituted immoveable about the centre, is it not the opinion of your self, Aristotle, Ptolomy, and all their sectators?
Simpl.Its on all hands granted as an undeniable truth.
Salv.Then from this common natural condition of quiescence about the centre, there is no argument drawn of the different natures of these Elements, and things elementary, but that knowledge must be collected from other qualities not common; and therefore whoso should deprive the Elements of this common rest only, and should leave unto them all their other operations, would not in the least block up the way that leadeth to the knowledge of their essences. But Copernicus depriveth them onely of this common rest, and changeth the same into a common motion, leaving them gravity, levity, the motions upwards, downwards, slower,The concurrence of the Elements in a common motion importeth no more or lesse, than their concurrence in a common rest. faster, rarity, density, the qualities of hot, cold, dry, moist, and in a word, all things besides. Therefore such an absurdity, as this Authour imagineth to himself, is no Copernican position; nor doth the concurrence in an identity of motion import any more or less, than the concurrence in an identity of rest about the diversifying, or not diversifying of natures. Now tell us, if there be any argument to the contrary.
Simpl.There followeth a fourth objection, taken from a natural observation, which is, A fourth argument against Copernicus. That bodies of the same kind, have motions that agree in kinde, or else they agree in rest. But by the Copernican Hypothesis,Bodies of the same kinde have motions that agree in kinde. bodies that agree in kinde, and are most semblable to one another, would be very discrepant, yea diametrically repugnant as to motion; for that Stars so like to one another, would be neverthelesse so unlike in motion, as that six Planets would perpetually turn round; but the Sun and all the fixeed Stars would stand perpetually immoveable.
Salv.The forme of the argument appeareth good; but yet I believe that the application or matter is defective: and if the Authour will but persist in his assumption, the consequence shall make directly against him. The Argument runs thus; Amongst mundane bodies,From the Earths obscurity, and the splendour of the Sun, and fixed Stars, is argued, that it is moveable, and they immoveable. six there are that do perpetually move, and they are the six Planets; of the rest, that is, of the Earth, Sun, and fixed Stars, it is disputable which of them moveth, and which stands still, it being necessary, that if the Earth stand still, the Sun and fixed Stars do move; and it being also possible, that the Sunand
