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their conversion. But the testimony of Christ is true. Therefore; the record in the Book of Mormon is false. Again, The record in the Book of Mormon being true, the statement in the Bible "God is no respecter of persons," is not true. But that statement in the Bible is true. Therefore, the record in the Book of Mormon is not true. The trouble with those Nephite preachers was, they did not know enough about Bible teaching to distinguish between conversion and pardon. They confounded the two. Christ and his apostles taught as did the ancient prophets, that conversion is the condition of pardon. Upon this point the Savoir gives the following from Isaiah "By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive; for this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed, lest at any time they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears, and understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them."—Matt. 13: 14, 15., Is. 6: 9. If one would understand the subject of conversion he will need to carefully study the quotation from Isaiah. The language not only establishes the fact that conversion is the condition of pardon, but gives the means upon which God depends for the accomplishing of a conversion. It also gives the process through which an individual passes in a Bible conversion. When one is brought to see the beauty in the counsel of God they open their ears and hear that counsel, and thus seeing and hearing they understand that counsel. Being thus brought to an understanding of that counsel they turn to the Lord. In every instance where the term convert occurs in the Bible it means to turn, and a conversion is a turning to the Lord. Thus we have, in a Bible conversion, seeing with the eyes, hearing with the ears, understanding with the heart, turning to the Lord, then receiving pardon. The idea of a trance state in order to salvation is of heathen origin. It has been correctly said, "In heathen idolatry we have the vain efforts of man to reach his Creator, but in Christianity we have