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NOTES AND QUERIES.
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dm " Schiedam," from the appallingly tragic
nanner in which he said to a waiter in some
)iece, " Bring the schiedam, Peter," speaking
.s if dal prqrwndo dal storruico.
I hope that in this somewhat long note
have spoken of Mr. Lang with the respect
- ind regard I feel for him, as one most of
vhose books I have read, deriving from ^hem infinite pleasure and instruction. But nwnanum est en-are applies alike to the Tritons and to the minnows amongst man- kind. J. B. MONTGOMERIE-FLEMING. Kelvinside House, Glasgow.
With great respect for MR. BOUCHIER'S opinion I still venture to think that Scott, whatever he meant by it, wrote "harsh timber tones." This is the reading of Black's copyright edition of 1891, and the meaning does not seem to me hard to find. Scott de- scribes the Dominie's automaton-like move- ments, and
" the huge under-jaw, which appeared not to open and shut by an act of volition, but to be dropped andhoisted upagain by some complicated machinery within the inner man " ;
and he intends, as it appears, to convey the same idea by the "timber tones," as of a creaking cart or mill, which this strange figure emits. Why not "timber tones" as well as " silver accents " ? I heard a man say some time since that his cart had frightened his horse by "rawting out." These were "timber tones " with a vengeance, and poor Dominie Sampson's were like them. Would "harsh-timbre tones " be a correct expres- sion ? "Tones of harsh timbre" certainly seems the proper form. C. 0. B.
Whether "harsh timber is less right than "harsh-timbre" I do not pretend to know; but I am surprised that a "wooden voice" should be considered an inadmissible expres- sion. I use it myself constantly in speaking of harsh, unmelodious, dry tones; is there any literary authority ?
EDWARD H. MARSHALL, M.A.
Hastings.
LAMB AND BANNER (9 th S. iii. 387, 417). This crest is borne by the families of Benton, Clack, Grose, and Rowan, the two latter with a difference. A very similar crest belongs to a number of other families, enumerated by Fairbairn in his book on this subject, edited by A. C. Fox-Davies (Edinburgh, 1892, 2 vols. folioj. JULIAN MARSHALL.
The Paschal lamb occurs not unfrequently in German armory. Gules, a Paschal lamb argent on a terrace vert, is the coat of the Bavarian Wiilfer, and (without the terrace)
of Lampoins of Holland. Azure, a Paschal
lamb argent, is borne by Pascal of France.
There is also another family in France, and
one or two in England, of the name of Pascal
or Paschal, with the holy lamb as their crest.
It is also the coat of the Swedish province of
Gb'ttland and of the principality of Brixen ;
and is found in the arms of the families of
Ostertag in Bavaria and Suabia, and in the
families Osterhausen, Osterhammer, and
Osterrieth. The arms of John de Oxford,
Bishop of Norwich (1175-1200), were: Argent,
on a base wavy azure a lamb triumphant
(i. e., with the banner) sable ; and Rowe of
Lamerton, in the county of Devon, bore three
holy lambs (for this coat see 'Display of
Heraldry,' 1679, in Middle Temple library).
The arms of the town of Preston, co. Lan-
caster, and of the burgh of Ayr, Scotland,
were also the Paschal lamb, thte latter with
the banner of St. Andrew. I may add that
this crest is likewise borne by the 2nd Royal
West Surrey Regiment (the Queen's), nick-
named " the Lambs "; and by the Honourable
Society of the Middle Temple. Most of these
references may be found in ' Heraldry, British
and Foreign,' by John Woodward, and in
Parker's 'Glossary of Terms used in Heraldry.'
HAMILTON WILLIS. [Other replies are acknowledged. 1
CROSBY PLACE, BISHOPSGATE (9 fch S. iii. 367). I copy the following from an account of Crosby House in Hughson's ' London,' vol. ii. : "The hall, miscalled Richard the Third's Chapel, is still entire, though, for the use of the present holders, it is divided by floors. Its length is eighty- seven feet, the width twenty-eight, and the height thirty-six feet. It is tall and majestic, and the fourth side affords a range of beautiful Gothic ,'indows ; a beautiful circular window hath, no doubt, been a scene of many civil festivities. The whole room is formed with a great degree of ancient elegance; the roof is divided by three rows of pendants, which range along it, connected by pointed arches ; the whole of the large apartment is highly ornamented, and made to suit better purposes than being converted to repositories for package, heating iron plates for pressing, &c. Crosby Square occupies the rest of the site of this magni-
icent mansion.
CELER ET AUDAX.
From a casual inspection of the Gothic
remains mentioned by MR. CLARK, I should
36 inclined to judge that they formed part
of Crosby Place. The architecture seems to
Belong to the date of that building (1466-75).
Crosby Place suffered greatly by the fire of
1666, and another fire in 1672 left little more
xhan the great hall standing. Although Sir
John Crosby leased the site on which the
^lace was built from the Prioress of St. Helen's,
" do not think the conventual buildings
