"I am not sure. If anything it was more frequent."
"When did you learn who this young girl was?"
"I cannot recall that. I have tried to. During the Spring of 1904, before he went abroad, I am inclined to think I learned that."
"At that time can you recall what your son said about the young girl?"
"I can not recall it."
District Attorney Jerome here appealed to the court to instruct the witness to answer yes or no to this question.
"You have stated that you think you learned who this young girl was before your son went to Europe in 1904. Now, my question is, what did he say?"
Mrs. Thaw's examination was interrupted at this time by a clash of counsel over the purpose of the questions. District Attorney Jerome insinuating that if it was to show Thaw mentally unbalanced he would ask for a lunacy commission. The clash did much to disconcert the witness. Finally her examination continued.
"What did your son say to you?"
"It was some time between Thanksgiving and when he went back to Europe that he told me who the young girl was. I cannot recall the conversation we had, but I think it was in March that he told me."
"What did your son tell you?"
"He said she had gone with her mother to New