"Do you think that he committed a murder ?" — ' I heard that he had committed a murder. I don't know« I was in jail '*
"Do you call it murder ?" — ' I should certainly call it murder/
"Did you not advocate resistance to the law ?"— Mf you don't like a law, you must resist it in order to get it altered. The penalty for resistance is punish- ment. That is called Passive Resistancre '.
Sir Edward Carson read extracts from the plaintifE's newspaper Kesari and asked whether it was true that resistance to the Government was advocated. — ' No ; it was resistance to the Government Officials ; I draw a distinction between them '.
"Government consists of Officials, doesn't it ?" — A house consists of rooms but a room does not mean a house '. (Laughter).
"Was not Mr. Kingsford the man whom it was in- tended to kill, when two ladies with their coachman were murdered ?" — ' Yes, I believe so '.
Extracts were read to show that the plaintiff's news- paper Kesari had used language which was likely to produce such a result. The witness denied it. He added that the newspaper was not even printed in the language spoken by the people where the murders were done and his newspaper did not circulate in that part of India.
Sir Edward Carson read further extracts with a view to show that the witness's newspaper encouraged the use of the bomb to bring about alterations in the system and administration of Government. The witness denied the inference. ;i