Talk:Jacobi's letter on Acaranga controversy of meat-eating

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Notes:	Recently this article has also been published in: Alsdorf, Ludwig, Bal Patil, Nichola Hayton, and Willem B. Bollée. (2010) The history of vegetarianism and cow-veneration in India London: Routledge. ISBN 9780203859599. OCLC: 430678942
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Acaranga Sutra/Jacobi's Letter

Gday. Have you evidence that the work Acaranga Sutra/Jacobi's Letter is in the public domain? As it is a letter it would need to be demonstrated either that the author is dead by 70 years, and that the work has been published, or that the author has put the letter into the public domain. — billinghurst sDrewth 12:29, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for your note. Hermann Jacobi died in 1937, i.e. past 73 years. Hence it is in public domain. Check the article on wikipedia - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermann_Jacobi .--Anishshah19 (talk) 14:26, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

Unfortunately it is not that simple. We have an AND test not solely that the person is deceased. If the work was published in their lifetime and they are deceased by more than 70 years, then it is in the public domain. If it was not published we are okay; however, if it was published posthumously, then we have a series of tests. Please see http://www.copyright.cornell.edu/resources/publicdomain.cfm . Once we determine that we can work out how we handle that.

Further, the letter was not part of the work Acaranga Sutra so it is not subsidiary to the title, and as such should be classed as a work of its own right and would therefore sit at the top level. Let us work on 1) can we keep it; if yes then 2) what should we entitle it and 3) the appropriate copyright tag. — billinghurst sDrewth 00:03, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

This is interesting. However I am of opinion that this is in public domain as:

• The author died in 1937 i.e. 73 years before, and
• This letter was published in 1933 i.e. before the death of the author in the book The Review of Philosophy and Religion" (vol. IV, No. 2).' (1933) [1]. It was published in the chapter Prohibition of flesh-eating in Jainism by H. R. Kapadia. [2]. Kindly go through the evidence. I hope this should resolve the issue.--Anishshah19 (talk) 08:38, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

That ticks the boxes for me. We need to

• move the letter to something at the top of the namespace, with a name that is more explanatory
• tag the letter with {{Pd/1996|1937}}
• add year = 1933 to the {{header}} and we can add a previous link to the work to which this is the subpage
• probably can add a NEXT link from the other work to this
• we'll need to build the author page, though I can do that after

  — billinghurst sDrewth 12:25, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

Thanks you very much for takeng interest in improving this page. However, to give a background, this letter addresses a controversy due to authors translation of a particular passage. Hence it is quite important. Translation of Acaranga Sutra should be accompanied by this letter so as to bring a proper perspective to the translation. Hence I suggest that it remain as a sub-page of Acaranga sutra.--Anishshah19 (talk) 13:02, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

Can you suggest a good name for this sub-page if Jacobi's letter is not appropraite. How about Jacobi's letter on Acaranga controversy of meat-eating? I will make other changes suggested by you but I am logging off for now. Thanks--Anishshah19 (talk) 13:07, 19 November 2010 (UTC)