Talk:Thom's Irish Who's Who/O'Malley, Ellen

@Charles Matthews: I see that you created the WD item, and that we don't have a WP article. — billinghurst sDrewth 10:27, 12 September 2020 (UTC)

@Billinghurst: A bit annoying that the photograph of her here by (Alexander) Percy Guttenberg comes without a death date for the photographer. No one seems to know when he died, which might be before he turned 80 which is the cutoff for the 70-year copyright rule. You might be able to settle this? Charles Matthews (talk) 10:48, 12 September 2020 (UTC)

I will do some research on the photographer — billinghurst sDrewth 11:02, 12 September 2020 (UTC)

Guttenberg is born 1870, and shows in 1871 through 1911 census. I can see him going from Canada to USA in 1923. Can see photography studio in London 1929. Married Rose Keesing in 1895. I cannot see either in the 1939 Register, and there is a possible death for Rose in Bouornemouth in 1960, aged 86. — billinghurst sDrewth 11:31, 12 September 2020 (UTC)

@Charles Matthews: Her real name was Charlotte Gray Jones b. 29 Jul 1878 • Balrothery, Dublin, Ireland; died 30 May 1961 • London, England as Charlotte Gray Thornhill. Probate exists.

Obit. The Times (London, England), Thursday, Jun 01, 1961; pg. 20; Issue 55096, died 2 days prior.— billinghurst sDrewth 11:31, 12 September 2020 (UTC)