Talk:Three Stories and Ten Poems/Out of Season
Add topicLatest comment: 3 years ago by R. J. Mathar in topic 1925 version
Please restore the historic of Out of Season. I'm the one who created this page. Thank. Frederic Henry (talk) 12:12, 23 February 2012 (UTC)
- Hi. I basically did not change your page, you already transcluded the pages from the scan. I just moved it under the structure of the book where it belongs and made the redirect to point here. What do you think is wrong with what I have done? --Mpaa (talk) 17:35, 23 February 2012 (UTC)
- You are credited for the creation of the page: [1]. So please restore my contributions. Thank. Frederic Henry (talk) 21:16, 23 February 2012 (UTC)
- Maybe I am a bit slow. What's wrong with the creation of this page (and this page only, why not all the others I moved in the same way?)? As I said before, this page put your contributions in the proper structure of the book. The page Out of Season redirects here, where your contribution is kept, see [2], as you already transcluded the page. In addition to proper place in the structure, in case future versions of this work will be uploaded in the future, Out of Season will serve as a disambiguation page.
- Can you please explain where is the difference or what bothers you? Is the change capitalisation of "Out Of Season" in "Out of Season" or the fact that your original page now redirects here? Pls elaborate a bit instead of just demanding just because you "created" the page, which is not the same as you "own" the page.
- In case my answer does not satisfy you or you do not want to elaborate more, it is obvious that we do not share the same view on the topic. In that case, please post your request at WS:Scriptorium to request a third opinion. Bye --Mpaa (talk) 23:25, 23 February 2012 (UTC)
- Pardon - I think the "problem" is a subjective one at best but a valid objection to make nevertheless ( [3] you blanked the content then made a redir out of it instead of moving it to the proper subpage at that point in time. This broke the actual chain of events from creation to match and split and so on. The capitalization moves didn't help either). I've never been able to master selective process deletions and the order they must be executed in order to maintain/transfer full edit histories myself but I'm sure one of the older admin's can speak to how to "fix" the edit history. -- George Orwell III (talk) 23:45, 23 February 2012 (UTC)
- I have published this text here, I made the work, and you made a new historic that only shows your contributions. I think the problem is quite clear, and it is very simple to restore a true historic. Frederic Henry (talk) 00:29, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
- OK, so the problem boils down to credit for the work a a name on a page … Sorry, I am more pragmatic person to whom content matters more than credit for it. Fyi, I have spent ours (trying to) improving the work and I rather expected some appreciation rather than an implict accusation of wanting to take the credit. To be honest, I did not consider the 'historical' consequence of the move, and digging in log anyhow shows who did what. Anyhow, if GO III states that this was not the correct execution of action, I will seek some help at Scriptorium to fix this. --Mpaa (talk) 07:18, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
- This is not an accusation, this is a fact. I have spent hours for making this file and publish a correct text. You want some respect for your work, but you don't have for mine. Frederic Henry (talk) 09:41, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
- The fact is that I disregard history in my actions. The accusation is your opinion, as you are not assuming good-faith on my side. I did not get your point, as its implications on your work, until GO III clearly explained it even though I asked for explanations. As I said, I am a bit slow … Anyhow, now this is case-closed for me now. --Mpaa (talk) 10:19, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
- For me too. I don't want contribute to a project where what I publish can be reattribuate to others. Adios. Frederic Henry (talk) 10:33, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
- The fact is that I disregard history in my actions. The accusation is your opinion, as you are not assuming good-faith on my side. I did not get your point, as its implications on your work, until GO III clearly explained it even though I asked for explanations. As I said, I am a bit slow … Anyhow, now this is case-closed for me now. --Mpaa (talk) 10:19, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
- fwiw... nine times out of ten, the way it went down would be "OK" for lack of a better term - unfortunately this was not one of them. I too have overlooked such editing nuances (off-site project coordination, teacher/student homework assignments, and similar) in the past only to have it come back and haunt me much like this instance did for you. You're still tops in my book regardless. He/She needs a clear edit history for whatever reason and in this case he/she happens to have voiced a legit concern based on the overall premise behind the tracking of edit histories wiki-wide. -- George Orwell III (talk) 07:36, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
- This is not an accusation, this is a fact. I have spent hours for making this file and publish a correct text. You want some respect for your work, but you don't have for mine. Frederic Henry (talk) 09:41, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
- OK, so the problem boils down to credit for the work a a name on a page … Sorry, I am more pragmatic person to whom content matters more than credit for it. Fyi, I have spent ours (trying to) improving the work and I rather expected some appreciation rather than an implict accusation of wanting to take the credit. To be honest, I did not consider the 'historical' consequence of the move, and digging in log anyhow shows who did what. Anyhow, if GO III states that this was not the correct execution of action, I will seek some help at Scriptorium to fix this. --Mpaa (talk) 07:18, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
- You are credited for the creation of the page: [1]. So please restore my contributions. Thank. Frederic Henry (talk) 21:16, 23 February 2012 (UTC)
- OK, I think I've fixed it by doing a history merge. It's not something I want to do again in a hurry. (And I certainly never want to do a history split!) Beeswaxcandle (talk) 07:44, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
1925 version
[edit]This is reprinted in In_Our_Time/Chapter_11 . - R. J. Mathar (talk) 14:38, 10 October 2021 (UTC)