User talk:GrafZahl/Archives/2006

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2006

Hello, GrafZahl, welcome to Wikisource! Thanks for your interest in the project; we hope you'll enjoy the community and your work here. If you need help, see our help pages (especially Adding texts and Wikisource's style guide). You can discuss or ask questions from the community in general at the Scriptorium. The Community Portal lists tasks you can help with if you wish. If you have any questions, feel free to contact me on my talk page.

I'm glad you managed to get your account made. Hopefully the tech people will be able to resolve the Firefox issue soon.--BirgitteSB 13:28, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

Response

Yes, I do intend to start populating it with standards.

In had a chat with some fellow engineers. We agreed that we/I should create a higher-level structure at the outset, as - not to do so will result in others placing standards all in one location on the category tree or result in a category tree which will be non-optimum and - will result in more effort to clean up.

The primary 'hurdle' I need to resolve now is how to upload standards which I have in PDF. When I figure that out, I will start populating the tree.

If reference documents should not be included in Wikisource, where would they go in the Wiki family? It seems to me that everything in Wikisource is a reference of some form or another. I consider a standard, a Declaration of Independence, a Constitution and a speech all the same type of document.

Andrew8

A Treatise on Electricity and Magnetism

You asked, why some pages on this book are already moved and why some pages contain no OCR-Text. Let me explain you this in some short terms and hopefully you will help to get this project going...

• I uploaded all of the pages to wikisource. At this time I am setting up the scanned pages and the OCR-work has to wait while I am ready with the navigation of the scanned pictures. If you want to help at this stupid copy-job, you can go to page 340 and copy the contents to 341... until all pages are ready to go.
• The Pages I have already set to the Index are proof-readed by me, but still can contain errors. I moved them, because I experimented with the setip of the OCR-Text and you can correct it if you find errors. Every Text-page has a link back to the scanned page for later proof-reading.
• The reason why there are many scanned pages without OCR-Text is simple: They delivered no suitable Text, so I decided to scan them in another way. If I am ready with setting up all pages, I will continue to post OCR-Text here. But now I first will setup the whole book.
• Volume II has to be set up, too. If you want help there, feel free to setup them.

What you did looks pretty fine! In the future proof reading should happen on the scanned pages. I only moved the preface (not really well proof-readed), because I had to set up the layout for future works. I think it would be the best, if you proof-read full chapters before moving it from the scanned pages to the index and don't forget to link between OCR and scanned text. Please keep up your real nice work! Red Rooster 17:47, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

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The ProofreadPage extension was recently activated on en.ws. You may want to use the Page: namespace for this book. Here is an example showing how it works: fr:Œuvres de Fermat - I. fr:Index:Fermat - Livre 1 ThomasV 09:01, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

Merci. I tried it out with Page v from the Preface. I'll let you know if I encounter any problems.--GrafZahl 12:34, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

la.wikisource - Fontes liberi

Fixed!

Thank you very much!

--Francesco Gabrielli 10:22, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

THanks for the heads-up

Cheers Sherurcij ^{(talk) (CRIMINALS ARE MADE, NOT BORN)} 11:41, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Poetry category

Please do not recreate Category:Poetry since it is redundant with Category:Poems (see the discussion choosing "Poems" over "Poetry"). On a related note, I'm curious as to why you categorised “Out, Out—” to both Poetry and Poems. ;) // [admin] Pathoschild (^talk/_map) 16:44, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

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Welcome back

I am glad you have internet again.--BirgitteSB 18:19, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks! It's good to be here again.--GrafZahl 09:29, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

Bot flag for TalBot

Hi, GrafZahl,

While I can assign bot flags to accounts, I can't do so without community approval (as per our bot policy). I suggest, you move the content from my talk page to the Scriptorium and make a formal request there.—Zhaladshar ^(Talk) 15:08, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Bot request

Hi, GrafZahl,

I noticed that the UN Security Council Resolutions has been assigned to TalBot. However, I think the script you wrote for the page moves is not quite what we eventually decided upon on the Scriptorium. After Jusjih made the request on WS:BOTS we discussed it a bit more, and decided to go with a different naming convention. I've updated the request on the request page, so you can see if the updated request requires any changes to your move script or not. Thanks!—Zhaladshar ^(Talk) 19:14, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

You're correct, the script still resembles Jusjih's very initial request. I've followed the discussion but I had the impression it was stalling. But since there was no opposition against basic procedures 1–3 I guess I'll be churning out a new script soon. With all the moving back and forth of page titles, and new pages being added under the new convention, it'll take some time to write anyhow, so there is still time for objectors to speak up.--GrafZahl 10:35, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

I have noticed the new article names for the United Nations Security Council Resolutions. The links to previous and next pages will also have to be cleaned up as the articles are no longer subpages now.--Jusjih 09:44, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Yes, I'll post a new task about that soon. I'm currently working on a soft redirect removal script which will contain a function that will (hopefully) preclude such breakage in the future.--GrafZahl 11:06, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

GNUFDL

Thanks. I want to know that 'if an article is free to view or to download from a site, then is it also compatible to the license because it has been given on the site for general viewing'. And I could not find a way to upload an image to my user page. I can upload the file on Wikisourse but not to my page. Would you plz. tell.:-) 21stCenturyDRAGON 15:20, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

The right to redistribute a work is only one of the requirements. See Wikisource's copyright policy for more information. (User:Pathoschild/Libre may also be helpful.) --Benn Newman ^(AMDG) 22:19, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

I Thankyou very much Benn and GrafZahl for your support. I will be very pleazed if you could do

1 more favour , if you could tell me the image [[1]] I have created And uploaded to [Wikimedia commons] is legal. I hav provided all of the details. Thank U again.

The image you uploaded is what is called a derivative work. This means that you didn't create your image from scratch, but took a pre-existing image (looks like a desktop screenshot to me, let's assume it is one) and sent it through an image filter. The pre-existing image seems to be a derivative work itself, composed of desktop icons and a background image. The image is legal, generally, if you have permission to use all original components of the image. You should add information about these permissions to the image description page. In your case, original components to be considered would be the background image, possibly the icons (but they're barely discernible) and their arrangement. The arrangement might be not creative enough to gain copyright protection, especially if it was made by an algorithm. Likewise, the final image might be ineligible for new copyright, if it is the product of a mere graphics filtering routine. On the other hand, if you used multiple filters, their arrangement might be eligible for copyright.--GrafZahl 18:40, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

Help:Split_texts

Hi! Thanks for your help with the "splitting texts" help page! Quick question: You left a commented note about using /1 /2, etc. I'm not all that familiar with WikiSource, so I don't know if short subpage names like that are common / acceptable / standard. Are they? Should the help text reflect that? Thanks again! -- SatyrTN 16:55, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Well, thinking about it again, I guess it's a bit of a matter of taste. The subpage title should reflect the sectioning scheme of the original work, so if you have "1 - The Dog Returns", "2 - Where Is The Cat?", etc., you should use /1, /2, etc. But if you simply have "The Dog Returns", "Where Is The Cat?", etc., the style guide does not dictate anything. Of couse, /1, /2, etc., has the advantage that you don't need to second-guess if the author had parts, chapters, phases, fits, …, whatever in mind.--GrafZahl 18:46, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

Adminship

Hi, GrafZahl,

As per your request, I've given both you and TalBot sysop priveleges. Could you, under "Preferences > Editing" check the box that says "Mark my edits as patrolled"? Thanks.—Zhaladshar ^(Talk) 19:13, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

A recent change to the extension has removed that option; all administrators' edits are now automatically patrolled. If you are multilingual, please add the languages you speak to the list of current administrators. Thanks, and congratulations. —{admin} Pathoschild 04:18, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

OK, thanks.--GrafZahl 20:12, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Too fast with deleting

Why didn't you wait for a while before deleting interwiki link? I've created new page on en.source (yes, not logged...) already containing cs.source link to save one edit with creating new page on cs.source that evening or next morning. I often do it so on both cs.source and en.source, if I'm planning to create new page on the same or next day. --Thx Milda 08:00, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

I'm very sorry. I must have thought it was only the interwiki link that was added. I hope I didn't cause too much confusion.--GrafZahl 14:53, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

Oh no, that's all right. I did the edit not logged and I understand these edits are often more suspicious than from registered and fairly used account. --Milda 17:47, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

hi

hi, thanks so much for your note and welcome, i've no clue if i am sending his the correct way as i am newbie. i have looked at the page you linked, it seems i am doing quite a few things 'wrong', as in not formatting correctly ? i'm hoping i'm not making too much of a mess of it and shall go back and correct stuff as i find out how it works. i don't really understand some of the html used in your pages either unfortunately.
hi again, is this the correct way to reply to messages ? :) thanks for your note, yes, if you don't mind i would rather 'just' do proofreading for the time being as my html skills aren't that great. i found that page on footnotes already, thanks :) and thanks for the tilda tip as well:)Anonymouse 17:26, 29 December 2006 (UTC).

Thanks for the welcome!

• Thanks for the note and welcome! Once I get it confirmed (from you or someone else) that Freedom of Information Act documents mailed to a U.S. citizen from a United States Federal agency as part of a formal FOIA request are then part of the public domain, I think I will try to upload some stuff here and figure out how this project works. I8source 23:25, 30 December 2006 (UTC).