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Again, welcome! --EncycloPetey (talk) 15:25, 26 November 2012 (UTC)Reply

Westminster docs

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If these were used only by Calvinists, then I'd agree with the edits you made, however, the Catechisms are also used by Presbyterians. Listing them on the Portal for Calvinism is fine, but classifying them that way individually would be misleading. --EncycloPetey (talk) 15:25, 26 November 2012 (UTC)Reply

w:Presbyterianism is a sub-class of Calvinism. I realize things are a little different here, but @ WP there is a Calvinism portal and Presbyterian articles fall under it, but here you have a separate portal, as if it's a separate branch of Christianity. Anyway, no big deal as long as they show up in the lists of works for Presbyterianism and Calvinism. Jfhutson (talk) 15:51, 26 November 2012 (UTC)Reply

Please consider waiting....

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... to add any more Pages under the Index: for the Book of Common Prayer - I'm in the process of converting the text-layer lacking GooBoo pdf file into a text-layer rich DjVu file on Internet Archive as I type.

In short, the more you add now - the more we have to move later. Thank you for your consideration. -- George Orwell III (talk) 23:38, 26 February 2013 (UTC)Reply

I was just going to get the most popular parts like the creeds and Lord's Prayer up. I'm glad to hear someone's working on the whole thing. --Jfhutson (talk) 23:41, 26 February 2013 (UTC)Reply
Yeah - we try to avoid straight uploads from Google Books because they never allow their plain-text transcription to be saved in their PDFs so when you go to create a new Page: here on.WS under an Index:, you get a blank box instead of something resembling the originally text to work with.

In the end, it will be setup so anyone can contribute by adding other pages at any time without the roadblock of having to type it all in word by word. Unfortunately, IA isn't the fastest thing in the free-world so it will a few hours before the processing is done. -- George Orwell III (talk) 23:50, 26 February 2013 (UTC)Reply

Done -- Index:The Book of Common Prayer.djvu -- George Orwell III (talk) 07:03, 27 February 2013 (UTC)Reply

Thanks, that does look much better. --Jfhutson (talk) 13:51, 27 February 2013 (UTC)Reply

Suggestion for the Humble Advice work

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Hi, I'm just having a look at Page:Humbleadviceofas00west.djvu/11. I suggest that the Bible verses in this work are linked to our King James version. The format is [[Bible (King James)/Romans#3:14|Rom. 3:14, 15]]. Unfortunately, we can't link to a range of verses, but I figure if we can offer at least the first verse, then we're helping somewhat. I would have suggested Bible (Authorized Version), but it's not complete enough. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 18:27, 27 February 2013 (UTC)Reply

Good idea. --Jfhutson (talk) 18:33, 27 February 2013 (UTC)Reply
Also, thanks for looking at the BCP. --Jfhutson (talk) 18:36, 27 February 2013 (UTC)Reply

For the second reference on Page:Humbleadviceofas00west.djvu/20 I've replaced the <p> tags with <br />. It's tightened up the line-spacing a little. If you don't like it feel free to put them back, but I thought it might help reduce the length of the ref lists a little.

When I saw your initial playing with MarginNote I thought that it looked good, but when the list got longer and longer it got impossible. And I agree that mixing the refs between MarginNote and footnotes won't work either. So, your columned reflist is probably the best we can do under the limits of the Wiki software. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 07:15, 6 March 2013 (UTC)Reply

Heidelburg catechism

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I note your note about replacing the pdf with the djvu. I can assist you with this, but is there a problem with the pdf that I can't spot? Beeswaxcandle (talk) 21:15, 4 March 2013 (UTC)Reply

I really don't know if it's worth it. My impression from George Orwell above is that running a Google pdf through Archive improves the OCR? --Jfhutson (talk) 21:18, 4 March 2013 (UTC)Reply
The text layer on the pdf looks reasonable to me, so this time it's probably not worth it. But if you still want to do it, that's fine. Just let me know.
The pdf George was talking about above had no text layer that we could get at. This often happens with Google pdfs, so we generally run them through IA (assuming it's not already there—many works are) and that way get a text layer. I generally avoid Google uploads on IA, unless it's the only copy they've got. For some reason their images are either missing or dreadful. I think it has something to do with the settings on their scanners. The direct uploads from libraries to IA where the library lets IA do the OCR are generally of a much higher quality. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 23:09, 4 March 2013 (UTC)Reply

Your question about chapter dividing lines

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Have a look at how I've done this on Page:The Warden.djvu/16. The dividing line still shows in the Page: namespace, but won't in the transcluded chapters. We're going to have to do the section bits at some point anyway, so might as well do it now. If you want to use more meaningful names for the sections (e.g. "Chap1" and "Chap2") then that's fine. For most of my works I've just used "s1" and "s2" on each split page. There's some help for sections at Help:Transclusion, but I find it easier to learn this by looking at examples. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 20:32, 7 March 2013 (UTC)Reply

Makes sense. I'm not sure why this is including more than the section I specified. --Jfhutson (talk) 21:16, 7 March 2013 (UTC)Reply
It was because the block center template was terminated after the section end marker rather than before it. I've moved the termination and it's fine now. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 21:24, 7 March 2013 (UTC)Reply
Thanks. Would you be able to point me to some directions that would allow me to do to the decoration above the text here what you did to the A? When I follow the directions at help:adding images#Automatic processing with Imagemagick imagemagick gives me a blank image. --Jfhutson (talk) 21:50, 7 March 2013 (UTC)Reply
Hmm. I don't use Imagemagick and I don't think we've got any directions for how to do it in other ways. I download a jpg version of the relevant page from IA's pageview. Then I do the cleanup in IrfanView (the very full function basic version is a free download). Beeswaxcandle (talk) 21:58, 7 March 2013 (UTC)Reply

The Aux TOC

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Hi, I've had a play at User:Beeswaxcandle/Sandbox4 to try and get the chapter titles to line up rather than the scallopped lines they're doing at the moment. The only issue is that the leading has spaced out, but maybe that can be lived with. What do you think? Beeswaxcandle (talk) 04:33, 8 March 2013 (UTC)Reply

{{nop}} and its placement

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Thought that I would drop a note about {{nop}} and its placement when editing in the Page: namespace. The purpose of {{nop}} in this situation is that it is a placeholder for (space), as that it holds the place for a new paragraph. So for that reason the {{nop}} needs to be on a new line. Presumably we need to be a little more overt in our help documentation. — billinghurst sDrewth 02:42, 10 March 2013 (UTC)Reply

Documentation looks fine, I either didn't read it or forgot. Thanks. --Jfhutson (talk) 02:58, 10 March 2013 (UTC)Reply

A little while back, you specified that this text was dated 1911. Do you know for certain that's true? If so, is it this one? CMBJ (talk) 11:54, 15 May 2013 (UTC)Reply

Updated scripts

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Hi Jfhutson. I edited your common.js to update you to the latest version of TemplateScript. You were using a much older version called regex menu framework, so you should notice a lot of improvements. A few of the big changes:

  regex menu framework TemplateScript
regex editor ✓ an improved regex editor which can save your patterns for later use
compatibility unknown ✓ compatible with all skins and modern browsers
custom scripts limited ✓ much better framework for writing scripts
supported views edit ✓ add templates and scripts for any view (edit, block, protect, etc)
keyboard shortcuts ✓ add keyboard shortcuts for your templates and scripts

I also migrated your custom scripts to use community scripts where equivalent. This adds a new Special:TemplateScript page to configure your scripts, and enables compatibility with upcoming features.

Let me know if you notice anything broken or missing, and I'll look into it ASAP. :) —Pathoschild 04:46, 17 May 2016 (UTC)Reply

hyphenation and spacing

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Hi. We haven't bothered preserving hyphenation within a page for a long time. It was and is a pretty valueless exercise, so please don't feel obliged. Also, with works that that are justified, we don't look to preserve (the weird) spacing unless there is clarity that this is required. We are not looking to make the proofreading harder than it needs to be. — billinghurst sDrewth 15:48, 4 June 2016 (UTC)Reply