User talk:Jossi

Hello, Jossi, welcome to Wikisource! Thanks for your interest in the project; we hope you'll enjoy the community and your work here. If you need help, see our help pages (especially Adding texts and Wikisource's style guide). You can discuss or ask questions from the community in general at the Scriptorium. The Community Portal lists tasks you can help with if you wish. If you have any questions, feel free to contact me on my talk page. :)

--BirgitteSB 22:59, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

Template repository

No, we really don't have anything like that. There are really only five templates that are commonly used, though:

1. {{header}} - the instructions for using this template are found on its talk page
2. {{author}} - the instructions for using it are on its talk page, as well
3. {{delete}} - place on pages for deletion
4. {{copyvio}} - use to list possible copyright violations
5. {{welcome}}

Other than that, there are no "major" templates; only minor ones used for smaller, more local projects. There was a point where we were going to compile a list of pages that list all the templates, but this project died a while ago. Thanks for reminding me, though; I need to resurrect that initiative.—Zhaladshar ^(Talk) 23:18, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

Deleted redirect

Hello Jossi. Please note that I've deleted the redirect from Adi Shankara in the article namespace to Adi Shankara in the Author pseudonamespace. The pseudonamespace was largely to set up to remove authors from the article namespace, where they often conflicted with biography titles and so forth. Setting up redirects defeats this purpose. :) // [admin] Pathoschild (^talk/_map) 23:34, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

Mailing lists

Perhaps you are unaware that Wikisource has a mailing list. In any event I am disappointed by your post to the en.WP mailing list. I spent well over a month working to change a policy at en.WP as an outsider. I know how difficult and time-consuming it can be to convince a community to change, but I never posted on the Wikisource mailing list to gather support for en.WP to allow non-latin usernames. Even when I posted to foundation-l on the issue I was careful to keep my posts in response to already existing thread and not try to bring people into the community discussions I was pushing, and when those threads died I continued solely on-wiki. It took alot of time and dedication to get that change, but I believed it was very important. Honestly I support your efforts here to institute a change you strongly believe in. I disagree with you about the change, but I support your ability to make the best case you can to convince the community. I cannot support your post to outside mailing lists. I find it very distasteful and I posted to the wikisource mailing list about it. Knowing the history of this community as well I do, I caution you that the worst thing you can do for you case is to present any outside discussion here. Doing so might create opposition to you on principle rather than merits.--BirgitteSB 14:06, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

I asked for opinions as it relates to Wikipedia, not to Wikisource, and received advice that Wikisource needs to find its own need for developing an exclusionary criteria related to BLPs. That will not happen on a Deleted discussion, so I am widthrawing my the deletion !vote, and hope that a vigorous debate ensues in this regard. ≈ jossi ≈ t • @ 14:37, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

I also just posted this ‘’On second thought I am over-reacting a bit. When jossi said he would discussing it on the mailing list, I was shocked that he meant the en.WP mailing list. But his actual post there is more about linking to such documents from wikipedia as anything else. Which is something they should discuss. I had read the post before but for some reason it struck me as much more inappropriate initially than it does on a second’’--BirgitteSB 15:01, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

No problems, Brigitte. I understand how my actions could have been misinterpreted. Wikisource needs to find its own way to deal with this potential problem, and I am sure that, if people like you put their best intentions forward, this will be addressed responsibly in due course. ≈ jossi ≈ t • @ 15:31, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

(edit conflict and thanks for being so understanding even before the apology) I am sorry to have overacted as I did. I hope my calmer response was quick enough to spare you any trouble. When you said you were planning on raising the issue on the mailing list I truly expected you meant foundation-l while hoping that you meant wikisource-l. en.WP-l did shock me a bit but you are right that the post is focused how it relates to en.WP. I should have woken up sooner when I could give 100% concentration to these things instead of trying to do this in snatches of time here and there. Community autonomy just happens to be an issue that really raises my hackles and I will try to be more aware that weakness in the future.--BirgitteSB 15:34, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Sure. No problems. My hackles will raise as well if an active editor of WS would come and challenge WP's autonomy. Just being honest... As for the issue at hand, I am not sure that excising personal names from court cases is a good idea. My main concern is one that relates to w:WP:COAT: the abuse of Wikisource as a way to portray a subject in a manner that is not neutral, on the basis of "it is sourced" or "it is in the public domain". Unfortunately, these type of issues require a strong determination based on the understanding of "do not harm" that has been accepted as a modus operandi in WP. That understanding evolved over a long period of time and is based on the reality of the prominence of WP as a web destination. WS is now 24th in Alexa, and it is my hope that long-standing WS editors that care about this project, put some attention in this matter as well. ≈ jossi ≈ t • @ 16:05, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Speeches

The Prem Rawat Foundation would like to place additional speeches of Mr. Rawat in the public domain, but I am not familiar with the formatting. Could you help us?

MH, TPRF representative. —unsigned comment by TPRF (talk) .

Sure. You can email me the texts. Please include a copyright waiver and an email address, so that the act of placing these speeches in the public domain can be verified. ≈ jossi ≈ t • @ 02:48, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Hi Jossi, can you please forward the email to OTRS, and include the OTRS template on the talk pages of any work that is covered by this permission, and then place {{PD-release}} at the bottom of the pages. Also, User:TPRF is not a registered user here. John Vandenberg 10:26, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

Te user is User:Tprf. The email address is there at Talk:Prem_Rawat_at_the_Queensland_Parliament_House. I will send an email to them asking to contact OTRS. ≈ jossi ≈ t • @ 03:01, 3 March 2008 (UTC)