User talk:Spideog

Copyright violations

{{PD-IrishGov}} is clear; modern works of the Irish government are copyrighted. As such, I'm deleting Of Public Intellectuals, Universities, and a Democratic Crisis, The Role of the University at a time of Intellectual Crisis, and Michael D. Higgins' Inaugural Address as copyrighted works. If you feel these are public domain, feel free to contact me on my talk page.--Prosfilaes (talk) 02:38, 16 March 2012 (UTC)

This is why we have license tags, so we can see why a work is claimed to be public domain. I will email you the documents.--Prosfilaes (talk) 00:38, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

Or not, as Billinghurst has recreated them in your userspace.--Prosfilaes (talk) 00:40, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

Special:PrefixIndex/User:O'Dea grab them and we will delete them in a few days. Clear copyright deletions don't get listed and are speedily deleted as per policy, only those where a discussion is required would be listed, or where the person identifying the copyright cannot delete. — billinghurst sDrewth 00:43, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

In the Consensus section at the policy page, WS:CSD, it says, "If you suspect that a work is a copyright violation, you can place it on Wikisource:Possible copyright violations. If you believe that an article does not belong on Wikisource, but it doesn't match any of the criteria for speedy deletion below, you can list it at Wikisource:Proposed deletions. The discussion will be held for at least one (Proposed deletions) or two (Possible copyright violations) weeks" (my emphasis). If there are different rules in different parts of Wikisource, then they should be collated in one place instead of having the "two week" rule stated above while an "immediate kill without discussion" rule is allowed elsewhere. Why make it difficult for editors to contribute safely? We are not lawyers with all the time in the world for chasing down invisble rules. O'Dea (talk) 12:03, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

If you have an email from the Irish government, please forward it to OTRS. It's rather complicated, though, and your description of "are a matter of public record there is no copyright attached to them" is concerned, since being a matter of public record has little to nothing to do with whether they are copyrighted.--Prosfilaes (talk) 06:53, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

I have e-mailed a copy of my correspondence with the Irish Parliament to OTRS. Therein, there is an explicit and unambiguous declaration that such speeches are not copyrighted. That is why I invested my labour so heavily: I did the right thing by seeking permission in advance from a source that could be trusted to know the facts: the Parliament itself, where such laws are made. O'Dea (talk) 12:03, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

Response at Talk:Second address to Houses of the Oireachtas by Mary Robinson Jeepday (talk) 11:45, 16 March 2014 (UTC)

Please note that {{PD-Ireland public record}} has been created at your request. Would you be so kind to utilise it on the works that you have uploaded that meets its condition. Thanks. — billinghurst sDrewth 12:03, 16 March 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for the template. I have appended it to the works concerned. O'Dea (talk) 21:13, 16 March 2014 (UTC)