User talk:Wengier
Latest comment: 25 days ago by Wengier in topic Treaty of Thapathali
All works hosted on en.WS must identify the source of the text that has been added. Where did you get the English text? --EncycloPetey (talk) 21:52, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
You also must provide a license that demonstrates the document is in public domain in the United States, since that is where the servers are housed. --EncycloPetey (talk) 21:53, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
- There are various places the treaty text can be found, and I got the full text from here: https://worldjpn.net/documents/texts/pw/18601024.T1E.html
- Since it was an international treaty between the United Kingdom and Qing China, I think the license would be the same as that of e.g. the Anglo-Chinese Treaty of Nanking, which includes templates stating the following: "This work is in the public domain worldwide because it was created by a public body of the United Kingdom with Crown Status and commercially published before 1974" as well as "This work is in the public domain because it is exempted by Article 5 of Chinese copyright law. This exempts all Chinese government and judicial documents, and their official translations, from copyright. It also exempts simple factual information, and calendars, numerical tables, and other forms of general use and formulas." --Wengier (talk) 22:04, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
- That looks like a secondary source. Wikisource no longer accepts copies from secondary sources. that is, we don't accept copy-pastes from other websites. We need a scan of the primary publication to host the work. --EncycloPetey (talk) 22:06, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
- I found a 1864 publication of the treaty (now digitized here), which may be considered primary source? --Wengier (talk) 22:26, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, it can. --EncycloPetey (talk) 22:40, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
- Great to hear it. --Wengier (talk) 22:40, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, it can. --EncycloPetey (talk) 22:40, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
- I found a 1864 publication of the treaty (now digitized here), which may be considered primary source? --Wengier (talk) 22:26, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
- That looks like a secondary source. Wikisource no longer accepts copies from secondary sources. that is, we don't accept copy-pastes from other websites. We need a scan of the primary publication to host the work. --EncycloPetey (talk) 22:06, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
The date parameter is for the publication date of the copy we have, not the signing date or first date of publication of the original. The copy you found to back this was published in 1929. --EncycloPetey (talk) 02:47, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- There are two sources provided for the treaty, one dated 1912[1], and the other published in 1929. I was just about to change it to this. --Wengier (talk) 02:50, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- The "1912" copy is a modern PDF, and is not acceptable as a source for Wikisource. We require a scan of an original publication, not a secondary copy such as a user-made PDF. --EncycloPetey (talk) 02:56, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- OK, then here is another source published in 1892: https://www.google.com/books/edition/A_Collection_of_Treaties_Engagements_and/GM8NAAAAIAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA161&printsec=frontcover --Wengier (talk) 03:01, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- If you would like to add another edition, it should be placed on a separate page. Each copy we host here should be based on just one source, which it copies faithfully. --EncycloPetey (talk) 03:02, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- OK, if so it can be just based on the source given already given (even though they look almost exactly the same). --Wengier (talk) 03:09, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- If you would like to add another edition, it should be placed on a separate page. Each copy we host here should be based on just one source, which it copies faithfully. --EncycloPetey (talk) 03:02, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- OK, then here is another source published in 1892: https://www.google.com/books/edition/A_Collection_of_Treaties_Engagements_and/GM8NAAAAIAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA161&printsec=frontcover --Wengier (talk) 03:01, 8 June 2024 (UTC)