Author talk:Julia Crawford

Name

LOL -- though it looks like Annie at least is definitely a separate person.

Annie

• "CRAWFORD, ANNIE" --Alan Goble The Complete Index to Literary Sources in Film (1999) [1]

Julia

• "Julia Crawford" --Shirlee Emmons, Wilbur Watkin Lewis, Researching the Song: A Lexicon (2008) [2]

Louise

• "Crawford, Louise Macartney" --Charles Dudley Warner, A Library of the World's Best Literature (2008) [3]

Marion

• "Marion Crawford" --w:User:Jmboothe, w:Kathleen Mavourneen (2004 article creation) [4]
• "Crouch stated that she was Mrs. Marion Crawford" --Florence Leniston Popular Irish Songs (1992) [5]
• "Mrs. Marion Crawford" The Month at Goodspeed's (1955) --[6]

Annie/Julia

• "the lyrics are usually attributed to a Mrs. Crawford, although whether this was Mrs. Annie Barry Crawford, an English poet, or Julia Crawford, the composer's County Cavan-born wife, is not clear." --W. H. A. Williams, 'Twas Only an Irishman's Dream: The Image of Ireland and the Irish in American Popular Song Lyrics, 1800-1920 [7]

Annie/Louise

• "Crawford, Mrs. Louise [Macartney] [...] At. also to Mrs. Anne (Barry) Crawford" --Edith Granger An Index to Poetry and Recitations (1904) [8]

Julia/Louise

• "Julia [poss. Louise or Louisa]" "PI calls her Louisa Matilda Jane Crawford, but cites E. C. Stedman’s Victorian Anthology which gives her name as Louise Macartney Crawford" --Bruce Stewart, Ricorso: A Catalogue of Full-text Works on Ireland in the Internet Archive (2010) [9]
• "Julia Crawford was born Louise Matilda Jane Montague" --Sean McMahon, Rich and Rare (1984) [10]

Julia/Marion

• "There is a debate at this late date that the lyrics were provided by a woman named Marion Crawford. Time has passed and at this date, I am unable to determine with finality, the identity of the lyric writer. But I assume that either Marion or Julia wrote the lyrics" --Ezra Edgar Carr, "Upon being self-hoodwinked" (2011) [11]

Annie/Julia/Louise

• "Crawford, Mrs. Julia (or L. M.) [...] may have been the Mrs. A. Crawford who published 'Stanzas' 1830?" --David James O'Donoghue, The Poets of Ireland (1893) [12]

—Beleg Tâl (talk) 00:45, 26 April 2017 (UTC)

Assuming they're all separate people

If all the Crawford names are different people, what can we determine about them?

• Annie Barry Crawford is definitely someone else. Dates 1731-1801 per [13] and [14], English poet per [15], and actress born in Bath per [16]. I think it's also safe to say that this is not the same "Mrs. A. Crawford" whose Stanzas and other works appeared in London in 1830-1857 per [17].
• Louisa Matilda Montagu was the daughter of Lt.-Col. George Montagu and Anne Courtenay. She married Matthew Crawford. She died on 29 December 1857. Her married name became Crawford. [18] Born 1789 [19]. Listed as Louisa-Matilda-Jane-Macartney (Montagu) Crawford in [20].
• Julia Crawford born in Ireland, died "about 1855" per "we+parted+in+silence"+crawford&source=bl&ots=juQglfK6Fm&sig=GjFXlVZlBxKNPvhc3gw2eWLrd9w&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiPq7C9xcLTAhUZ8YMKHbD5BFoQ6AEIPDAH#v=onepage&q="we%20parted%20in%20silence"%20crawford&f=false. As above, some believe Julia is a pseudonym of Louise.
• Marion, no information at all besides the statement that Crouch identified this as the given name of "Kathleen Mavourneen"'s author.

—Beleg Tâl (talk) 16:36, 26 April 2017 (UTC)