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Q Okay.

A So, you know, it's—so that I stayed focused on my job.

Q Okay. So that message gets relayed to Mr. Perry, the sentiment that you explained that Mr. Clark thought that DOJ wasn't doing enough.

What is your understanding of what happened after that gets relayed to Representative Perry?

A I—nothing was—I don't recall being told anything about—I don't know who Mr. Clark communicated those things to.

Q You just mentioned—

A The fact that Congressman Perry's name was raised at some point by Mr. Clark, it's—I'm trying not to speculate.

Q Of course.

A In terms of it's—I don't know who communicates—who information would go to and where it would go from there. But Congressman Perry's name was raised in those—in at least one of those, you know, short conversations that just came out of nowhere and then abruptly ended in the middle of me, you know, just talking through my official duties and assignments for the day. As to how exactly that worked in, I don't recall if I was—what I was told.

Q Let me ask it this way. Is it your understanding that Representative Perry had a role of introducing Mr. Clark to the President based on either Mr. Clark's sentiments or something else?

A It's certainly possible from what I remember of the conversation.

Q And about that specifically, what do you remember?

A I don't recall specifics. It's—

Q So you remember enough—