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Mr. Greim. And I'm just going to tell the witness, this is—they are here to get the facts that you have.

The Witness. Okay.

Mr. Greim. And understand the basis for those facts. The best way for this to work is just to sit back, listen to their questions carefully, And then do your best to answer the information you have.

The Witness. Okay.

Mr. Greim. And don't speculate. But, you know, you have to just do the best to answer what they give you.

So now a different lawyer will ask. We object to the idea of the two different lawyers, but that's okay. But let's go ahead and get it done.

Mr.   I appreciate that.

BY MR.  :

Q So, Mr. Klukowski, let me go back to the time on which you started at the DOJ. You said that your first day physically in the office was December 15th?

A I believe so. Yes.

Q What was your view at the time as to how long you were going to be there?

A I thought I was going to be there until the morning of January 20th.

Q Okay. So you were not expecting that there was some chance that there would be a second Trump term at that point? At that point you had already—your understanding was that the Trump administration was ending and that President Biden would soon assume control, on January 20th?

A Given that the electoral college had voted the previous day, December 14th.

Q Yes.

A Prior to that moment, I thought we were—I thought that the election was in