Talk:Mine and Thine (1904)

Editions info

1904 1st edition of Mine and Thine

1905 reprint edition of Mine and Thine

djvu pages, images, and indexes

1. How do I get this image associated with this page rendered as "Page:Mine and Thine, Coates, 1904.djvu/23" ? Londonjackbooks (talk) 13:13, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

2. Can you delete this page for me? I created it (incorrectly) a few days ago as an "experiment." Londonjackbooks (talk) 13:22, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

I deleted 2. Which index is going to be used, Index:Mine and Thine, Coates, 1905.djvu or Index:Mine and Thine, Coates, 1904.djvu? Cygnis insignis (talk) 15:18, 9 June 2010 (UTC) PS there is a bug in the indexes, perhaps a result of two moves. 15:37, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

I would like to populate Index:Mine and Thine, Coates, 1904.djvu with my own images since it is the first edition of the collection. Londonjackbooks (talk) 15:46, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

RE: the BUG... Yup. I made a mess of things last night for "Inductiveload." He created the indexes for me, and that's the "thanks" I give him! Londonjackbooks (talk) 16:11, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

(conflicted edit) No worries! I'm getting muddled myself, apologies ... the redirect at commons was not good. The file 001.djvu is a single page, the file type usually has a set of pages bundled together,

a. How could I do that myself with my scanned images?

like File:Mine and Thine, Coates, 1905.djvu from IA. The index I deleted contains the set of jpg files, because you have already proofread the content I don't think you need to do anything but move the text next to those jpg files.

b. Not sure how to make the "move."

I noticed that djvu was recommended to you, but I don't see that you need to bother in this case. I will recreate the file, that content could go to the desired title. Or if you want to make a djvu file,

c. I can stick with the djvu format since the Index pages have already been made...

see if you can get the app

d. What/where is the "app?"

to compile them into one file, then upload that to commons:File:Mine and Thine, Coates, 1904.djvu. Cygnis insignis (talk) 16:22, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

• I restored the deletion request, and made a new file with the preferred name Index:Mine and Thine, Coates, 1904.jpg and correct suffix. The template {{Sdelete}} can be added to anything thta is not needed. Cygnis insignis (talk) 16:28, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

Too many cooks I think, and I'm not helping matters. The restored Page:Florence Earle Coates Poems 1898 01.jpg shows an image from what I suppose is another book altogether, is that right? Poems (1898)

If you are opting for (c), using a set of jpgs compiled by an Index: page, you don't need to bother with the rest. Are they already uploaded? I would make a pdf from the jpegs and ask an external site to ocr it, or convert it with (free) applications advertised at those sites, eg, others know more about this. You could also wade through the Help:DjVu files and other pages Cygnis insignis (talk) 18:07, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

Is everything in order now? If you need anytihng else, just ask. I already linked you to a Python/djvuLibre script that will collate images (jpg, tiff or otherwise) into DJVU files, you will need to install Python and djvuLibre for it to work. Inductiveload—talk/contribs 01:48, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

Thank you SO MUCH for all the help/ideas... It has been a lot to look over, but I always learn much in the process! I am not very efficient in the learning process, but eventually "see the light" with the great help I get here. For Poems (1898), I have decided to use a jpg index since I had already downloaded the images to Commons. When I get to the Mine and Thine indexing/photo uploading, I may decide to use djvu (with help from your links/tips) instead of jpg. I will try not to inundate you with more questions, but no promises! Thanks again, Londonjackbooks (talk) 03:37, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

annotation

I removed this from the page:ns—

Mr. Edmund Clarence Stedman—to whom this collection of poems is dedicated—responded to Mrs. Coates' tribute in a letter dated 29 December 1904: "My dear lyrist, you,—than whom no woman of selecter station, no singer of more noble aim,—have conferred upon me what I recognize, and what all will pronounce, to be the richest tribute I have ever received..." [Life and Letters of Edmund Clarence Stedman. Vol. II. New York: Moffat, Yard and Co., 1910: 393-394.]

This would be better placed in the notes section, or perhaps the article at the other place. The 'author' of the text then becomes self-evident, it is 'our' note. The authority of any annotation becomes problematic when placed inline, which a reader may interpret as part of the original text; this is a principle being applied across the site because it reduces confusion and clarifies our scope. Hope this is okay, Cygnis insignis (talk)

Just came across your note here! Good to go... And I will make note of it in the future as well! Londonjackbooks (talk) 03:53, 4 January 2011 (UTC)