User talk:Ivanhercaz

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Again, welcome! Beeswaxcandle (talk) 07:51, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

Some advice

Hi Ivanhercaz,

I saw your post on the Wikisource:Scriptorium and wanted to give you some feedback on your edits. You'll probably want to familiarize yourself with the guidelines in general, but you're doing a great job so far.

Here's some things I've noticed going over your transcriptions and transclusions:

• In transclusion, the table of contents (called "Index" here) is usually included with the title pages/other front matter, and each individual chapter title is linked. See King Solomon's Mines as an example.

• If you look at the bottom of this page, you'll see a "B 2" at the bottom. This is a printing artifact, not part of the actual text itself. You don't need to (and shouldn't) transcribe it.

• There are a number of common templates you'll want to familiarize yourself with:

• {{sc}} - Provides small caps. You should use this instead of trying to do it manually using {{uc}}.
• {{rule}} - For horizontal lines.
• {{dhr}} - For vertical spacing/line breaks.
• {{rh}} - For a three column header. Use this instead of {{left}} and {{right}} combos.
• {{clear}} - If you use a {{right}} or {{left}}, this will fix the formatting of subsequent text which will "want" to kind of wrap around the aligned text.
• {{nop}} - When a paragraph ends a page, you need to insert a new line and the {{nop}} template at the bottom of the transcription. This tells the server that, upon transclusion, to treat the text on the following page as a new paragraph instead of a continuation of this one.
• {{hws}} and {{hwe}} - If a hyphenated word ends a page, use these two templates to "join" them back up. For example, if the word "center" is split like "cen-" and "ter" on two pages, use {{hws|cen|center}} at the end of the first page and {{hwe|ter|center}} on the subsequent page.

• I also have honestly never seen {{fine}} used before now. (Which isn't to say it's wrong; I just haven't seen it before. We usually just use {{smaller}} because {{fine}} is so barely smaller than regular text it's kind of hard to see the difference.)

• It's not necessary to {{justify}} things. Just type the text as you see it. You only have to change the justification if it's something out of the ordinary. For example, if most of the text is presented as justified, then there's a section that's centered -- you'll want to center that. But if everything is justified, or right aligned, or whatever, don't bother.

• Do not indent paragraphs.

• The preference is to use normal "straight quotes" instead of “angled quotes.”

• Finally, if you read this ancient archived discussion, you'll see that the concensus is not to use the {{uc}} template, but rather manually type things in ALL UPPERCASE.

I'll reply with additional comments if I see anything else. Good luck, and thanks for contributing. (Also thank you for asking how you were doing. Often we get people jumping in and just doing things their own way without trying to check with the community that they're following the rules and customs we have here.) Best, Mukkakukaku (talk) 12:50, 23 July 2016 (UTC)

In response to your question, you should use the {{hi}} template for hanging indents. It's just the regular paragraph indentation that we don't traditionally transcribe. Mukkakukaku (talk) 20:11, 23 July 2016 (UTC)

Also, as a comment: {{dhr}} is for vertical spacing, but not for paragraph breaks. Paragraphs are separated by a blank line (hit "enter" twice at the end of the paragraph.) I usually use {{dhr}} between chapter headings and text, or where there's a section break with extra whitespace. Mukkakukaku (talk) 20:14, 23 July 2016 (UTC)

Template:New texts

Congrats on your recent work. Please do add it to Template:New texts so that the community can see this work has been proofread. We do ask that you put the work title in the summary line for that addition as it helps our patrolling. — billinghurst sDrewth 23:04, 24 July 2016 (UTC)

Nice work, thanks for stepping in! -Pete (talk) 03:31, 26 July 2016 (UTC)

@Peteforsyth: Thank you for your comment! Regards, Ivanhercaz | Talk 16:35, 26 July 2016 (UTC)