User talk:Kernigh

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Elements of Style

Hi. Small point, but when trying to print this, on Windows XP the left hand line of each example box is chopped, for some reason. Maybe a layout glitch somewhere? Apwoolrich 20:31, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

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Today, I moved The Elements of Style from Wikibooks. The wikified version which I copied contained HTML tables for the example boxes. Most of the table cells were indented such that the wiki was preformatting the table cells. I have changed most of the tables to pretty tables.

Are you having the problem with the pretty tables (like in The Elements of Style/Rules) or the old tables (like in The Elements of Style/Principles)? --Kernigh 22:09, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

They are cropped in the former. It looks as though the line of the box in Pretty Tables is a shade to the left of a line drawn down the left hand side of the text. Might they be indented a bit?. Thanks Apwoolrich 07:37, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

Wikisource:Adminship

I noticed that you added a history section to the adminship page. Is this a necessary measure since WP content is released under the GFDL? I guess I mean to ask, does WS have to have this section because of licensing of content?—Zhaladshar ^(Talk) 02:48, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

I am not an expert in GFDL or copyright. From what I observe, history sections seem to be necessary. Projects outside Wikimedia tend to use similar sections. Wikicities has a template, Wikicities:Template:Wikipedia, for such situation. Wikinfo makes "References" sections (from where I take the pattern), see for example Wikinfo:Film at the bottom.

Unfortunately, from outside wiki I have found no examples. Most GFDL-licensed texts seem to be original, not derived, works. Thus I cannot find history sections in GNU Emacs Manual nor The Konqueror Handbook. The XEmacs Manual has no history section, but they forked the Emacs Manual before the latter became under GFDL; I checked their copyright.

In trying to avoid copyright paranoia, I am less interested in GFDL compliance than in simply linking to the source page. (For example, I was surprised to find that Wikibooks:Neutral point of view is a derivative of MetaWikipedia:Neutral point of view, not Wikipedia:Neutral point of view.) The "used under the GNU Free Documentation License" clause is only there to reaffirm our right to copy and modify Wikipedia.

If I wanted GFDL compliance for Wikisource:Adminship#History, than I might need to list the authors at Wikipedia. Calling them "contributors to Wikipedia" might work, or copying the top five names from WP:1000 might be effective. Some other wiki user might edit the History section for GFDL compliance. --Kernigh 03:55, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

Oh no, I'm not very interested in GFDL compliance. I just wondered why the history section was there. In browsing other policy pages on numerous sister projects, I've never come across such a history section, and it doesn't seem to exactly cohere with the rest of the content on the page.—Zhaladshar ^(Talk) 04:11, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

I don't think this is needed, in terms of GFDL compliance. Although the page is based in part on Wikipedia's page, it is different enough not to be a derivative that requires sourcing. That said, the usual place to cite history is on the talk page; see m:Transwiki#Page_history. // Pathoschild (_admin / ^talk) 04:42, 7 February 2006 (UTC)