User talk:Mkjames100

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Again, welcome! --EncycloPetey (talk) 01:08, 4 July 2017 (UTC)

hi, nice editing. for the page headers, we use a "running header template" to automatically space it like it appears on the page (see also Template:RunningHeader.) cheers. Slowking4 ‽ SvG's revenge 17:36, 4 July 2017 (UTC)

Not sure how to format page numbers

Is there a simple step by step instruction for formatting page numbers. I'm not familiar with the term running header template.

Thanks, mkjames100@hotmail.com

Also, how (and where) do I "sign" the page?

To use the {{RunningHeader}}, you can set it up as:

{{rh | LEFT | MIDDLE-TEXT | RIGHT }}

This produces the following:

The "rh" is a shortcut name that calls upon the header formatting. If there is text to go in the left-hand corner, place it after the first "pipe" ( | ), but if there is nothing to go in the upper left, leave that spot blank. Likewise, the text in the center and right go in the second an third slots, so all the itms are in order from left-to-right, and separated by pipes. The template should be set into the Header editing window, above the main editing window, when you edit a page.

You won't need to sign most pages. When you make an edit, the system logs who edited in the Page History. You should see a "History" tab somewhere in the top right of almost any page here, that will let you see who had edited that page. When you do need to sign something, such as on a Talk page, use four tildes (~~~~) and when you save tour edit, the system will convert the tildes into your signature. --EncycloPetey (talk) 20:52, 7 July 2017 (UTC)

RE: page 19. You had an extra pipe in the header, which set it to four columns instead of three. This split the center region into halves, so the text bunched up. --EncycloPetey (talk) 22:12, 7 July 2017 (UTC)

A couple of tips

Hi, first let me add my welcome. I hope you enjoy being here. I've been following along behind you on the Tom Swift book and thought I'd let you know about a couple of things that help with displaying the text later in the mainspace (we call that process "transclusion").

The mainspace assumes that the end of one page is continuous text with beginning of the next page. But when a paragraph ends at the bottom of a page we need to prevent the new paragraph at the top of the next page from running into it. The way we do that is to put {{nop}} on its own line at the bottom of the page. See Page:Tom Swift and His Photo Telephone.djvu/41 where we've put one in.

The other problem at the end of page comes when a word is hyphenated across two pages. The mainspace assumes that a space is required after the end of a page. If we just put the hyphen in then the text will look like: "So you are go- ing to try …" But, we want it to look like: "So you are going to try …". The way we do this is to use a pair of templates called "Hyphenated word start" and "Hyphenated word end". I usually use the abbreviated versions. At the bottom of the first page enter {{hws|go|going}} and at the start of the second page enter {{hwe|ing|going}}. You can see this very example at Page:Tom Swift and His Photo Telephone.djvu/36 and Page:Tom Swift and His Photo Telephone.djvu/37. If you hover your mouse over the "go-" or the "ing", you'll see a little popup give you the full word as it will appear when transcluded.

The other thing I should mention is hyphens and dashes. Where the text has an emdash (—) to separate text, that's what we should enter. Our Manual of Style says that by preference it should be unspaced. You've been using a spaced hyphen. There are several ways of entering an emdash. One is to use the Insert menu at the bottom of the edit window (it's the second from the left there); another is to type &emdash;.

If you need clarification on anything, just reply here. I'll pick up your response in my watchlist feed. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 08:59, 23 July 2017 (UTC)

First completed work

Well done! I hope you've got a sense of achievement for completing Tom Swift and His Photo Telephone. Please go to Template:New texts and add it to the list there. If the instructions there are too opaque let me know and I'll give you a hand.

Now, I promised you a couple more notes on things to look out for. On some of your pages there was a mixture of curly quotes and straight quotes. Our usual style here is to use straight quotes and apostrophes (because they're easiest to type). If a proofreader want to use curly quotes that's fine, but it needs to be stated on the talk page for the Index. In the end, the important thing is that a work is consistent in it's look.

The other thing I want to mention is double-length dashes. If we use several — (em-dashes) in a row, some browsers display them with a tiny gap between each one. So, we use a template to get around this problem, called {{bar}}. It defaults to 6em length ——————, which is far too long for most of our needs in the kind of book you've been working on, so we add a parameter {{bar|2}}, which looks like ——. This is generally about the right length. If you need it longer, then use 2.5 —— or 3 ———.

Enough from me for the time being. I'll be interested to see what you choose to work on next. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 09:21, 2 September 2017 (UTC)