User talk:Nonenmac

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Hello, Nonenmac, welcome to Wikisource! Thanks for your interest in the project; we hope you'll enjoy the community and your work here. If you need help, see our help pages (especially Adding texts and Wikisource's style guide). You can discuss or ask questions from the community in general at the Scriptorium. The Community Portal lists tasks you can help with if you wish. If you have any questions, feel free to contact me on my talk page. :)

Pictures

Hi, Nonenmac. I've noticed that a lot of your works involve heavily on pictures. I'm currently cleaning up the multi-lingual WS and deleting the pictures that have been moved over. I was wondering, when you get some time, if you could give me a list of the pictures that have been brought over (so I can delete them from the old WS) and give a list of the ones that need to be brought over (so either you or I could do it and I can finish cleaning up the unused pictures). I don't want to delete pictures that are needed and are not over here. Thanks!—Zhaladshar ^(Talk) 15:43, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

File:Edmeston NY Mager Mitchell House Restoration.jpg

Clearly new, so I didn't move it

Hi there, I've moved your book History of Edmeston, New York to b:History of Edmeston, New York, where it is within project scope. I've also moved almost all the images used to Commons. For the ones that didn't have license templates, I just assumed that all the images were PD-1923 (since most of them had that template already). If that's not correct, please update the license info on the images at commons (they all kept the same filenames). As well, the image shown at the right is clearly a new picture, so you'll have to license it and move it to Commons yourself. If you need help with anything regarding this move to Wikibooks, feel free to leave a note on my talk page there. Thanks! Happy editing! – Mike.lifeguard | ^@en.wb 17:13, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

email notifications

Hi, after a proposal to enable email notification, Wikisource can now notify you of any changes to pages on your watchlist and/or changes to your talk page. In order to take advantage of these features, you need to enabled them in your Special:Preferences. --John Vandenberg ^(chat) 09:04, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Portal:New York/Edmeston

Hey Nonenmac,

I just put up this portal, which you seem to have worked on, up for deletion. It is certainly a great body of work, but I don't think it belongs at wikisource. I am suggesting that all of it be moved to wikiversity, although there are some potential issues for files and large excerpts which may not be in the public domain. For example, this image you've marked as being PD because it was published before 1923, yet it is titled as being taken in 1939. This belongs no where (unless it has lost copyright or subsequently been released into the public domain) in Wikimedia.

I want to ask you to go through this work for things like that, and I can help move the media that is allowed into commons, and also the body of work into something like wikiversity if you'd like. - Theornamentalist (talk) 00:41, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

As far as I'm concerned, you can go ahead and delete it from Wikisource. The original document was already moved to Wikibooks in 2007. Nonenmac (talk) 02:12, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

And the images? - Theornamentalist (talk) 02:48, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

You can delete them too. The old ones were moved to commons. Nonenmac (talk) 03:07, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

revised edition

I would strongly encourage you to rethink your approach to An Illustrated Flora of the Northern United States, Canada and the British Possessions, attempting to produce a revised edition of this work is problematic. The priority at this site is to transcribe texts as they were, annotated editions must be separated from the 'clean text'. CYGNIS INSIGNIS 04:18, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

A few more queries on this work. "Desfontaine"? is this reproduction of the original, or a transcription error? Does it in fact contain an explanation of author abbreviations? Please also note the source of this text. And again, I would strongly encourage you transcribe the original text first, before creating work specific templates like {{Family Header}}. Wikipedia, and to some degree Wikispecies, has taxonomy well covered, so please take some time to consider the merits and pitfalls of overlapping scope, and how this site is well positioned to supply sources for current and notable descriptions at those sites. CYGNIS INSIGNIS 20:46, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

I am trying to make this document as much like the original as possible. The templates are merely a way to insert the text as efficiently as possible. The original document is quite consistent in its format of family, genus and species data, so if I plug the text into the correct template fields, the output will look pretty much like the original, and I won't have to worry about formatting anything except the templates themselves. This document does have a glossary and author list, just like I included. Most of the links in the text go directly to these lists. You may have been confused by my switching from the first to second edition of the work (1899 to 1913) since my volume one was the first edition and my volumes 2 & 3 were the second edition. I now have the second editions of all 3, so I'm using the second edition for everything now, though I may have missed a few changes. Nonenmac (talk) 22:33, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

Oh. The originial says "Desf. Desfontaine, Rene Louiche." --Nonenmac (talk) 22:43, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

One change I did make that could may be a source of contention is that the original has a table of contents for each volume of course and then separate TOCs for scientific and common names. I basically put these side by side for simplicity. They can be split back apart and set one after the other at some point if this is objectionalble, but at this point it's easier for me to keep track of what I'm doing by having them together. - Nonenmac (talk) 22:54, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

Desfontaines is the only way I've seen it, for what that is worth, whether this is a variant or typo is beyond my ken. For some reason I had the idea the template was going in the header, but the page I glanced at shows it placed in the body of the article. If I'm wrong it is all good and I'm sorry to have bothered you. One approach might be to use the subst: function to gain the convenience and dispose of the template. This work is not the only flora hosted here (I hope there will be many more), so the name of the template could be problematic ... one day. Make a note of the source you are using on the talk, if you haven't done that already. A user with experience in transcribing botanical works, and technical wizardry, is Hesperian; they might have some bright ideas to assist you. Regards, CYGNIS INSIGNIS 17:23, 21 July 2011 (UTC)

Orphaned Pages from Illustrated Flora

Hi. I've notice a few pages that seem to have been set up with incorrect titles, since they don't match the pattern in the rest of the work.

• An Illustrated Flora of the Northern United States, Canada and the British Possessions/Pteridophyta/Equisetaceae
• An Illustrated Flora of the Northern United States, Canada and the British Possessions/Pteridophyta/Lycopodiaceae
• An Illustrated Flora of the Northern United States, Canada and the British Possessions/Pteridophyta/Marsileaceae
• An Illustrated Flora of the Northern United States, Canada and the British Possessions/Pteridophyta/Polypodiaceae

If they are extraneous, you may want to mark them for deletion. If you prefer, I'll go ahead and do it. Thanks. Illy (talk) 15:22, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

You are right. I started with a different naming system that wasn't working out. Then I forgot about getting rid of them. You can delete them if you'd like. Thanks. Nonenmac (talk) 18:02, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

Unfortunately, I'm not currently an admin. I'll mark them for deletion and enter an item about them on the proposed deletions page with a reference that you're OK with removing them. Illy (talk) 18:50, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

Actually marked them for speedy deletion. Still getting used to being back and remembering all of the policies. - Illy (talk) 19:13, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

Now deleted Beeswaxcandle (talk) 21:33, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. Nonenmac (talk) 21:36, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

An Illustrated Flora of the Northern United States, Canada and the British Possessions/Abbreviations of the Names of Authors‎‎

Seems that there have been a number of knocking at your door recently.

With An Illustrated Flora of the Northern United States, Canada and the British Possessions/Abbreviations of the Names of Authors‎‎, I have converted the author links to be local in our Author: namespace, rather than point to enWP. We encourage local linking for authors and all of these are worthy of author pages locally. If the redlinks are a concern, it shouldn't be a worry as firstly, we should be building them and we have a process to identify those that need construction, and secondly, one of our hackers has a little script that queries enWP and can pull data and create the pages. To note that if the second is of interest it is available for all users. Also, looking at the formatting of the page, it may be possible to do some pattern matching and run a regular expression through and do some of that build. — billinghurst sDrewth 01:37, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

I agree that it's a good idea to link to local WS authors, as long as there will eventually be articles for them, so thanks for changing the links. However, if I want to finish all 3 volumes of this document in my lifetime, I don't think I'd better plan to do much of the migration of many author articles from WP. Nonenmac (talk) 03:10, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

It was not my expectation that you would migrate the articles, though … now that you mention it … it does sound like a magnificent idea.<straight face> I will work on some of those author pages, and will continue the conversion of the other links. For author pages, as we build and link the LINKS HERE can be quite useful. — billinghurst sDrewth 13:20, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

Dllperr. Duperry, Louis Isidore & Dllrazz. Durazzini.
Are these two correct? Should they be Du... — billinghurst sDrewth 16:35, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

No. You are correct. They should be "Du", not "Dll". OCR is not as good with italics. Nonenmac (talk) 16:41, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

There are a couple of others in which I have doubts, what I will do is add them to the talk page and if you could check from there it would be great, and I don't need to tag here. — billinghurst sDrewth 04:41, 23 July 2011 (UTC)

You may have seen that I added documentation spaces to templates that you created for the work. — billinghurst sDrewth 04:41, 23 July 2011 (UTC)

Template naming

At Wikisource we have been trying to be more particular about the naming of our templates as we know that templates, their names and operations, are a big hurdle to newbies trying to find them and to then decipher what they do. One of the practices that we have been looking to do is to have a good naming process where the name is descriptive or helpful to the activity — and as discussed earlier, we look to document. As full naming causes longer names, we encourage the use of shortcuts (redirected to the longer names). I would appreciate it if you would be able to update your recently created templates, alternatively let me know the thinking of your shorthand and I will update. Thanks. — billinghurst sDrewth 02:34, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

OK, I'll rename them and create shortcut redirects. Nonenmac (talk) 03:03, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

At the root level?

[No pun intended] … I was wondering whether publishing the work Aspidium marginale, Swartz is not a little out of context. Where works have appeared within a periodical we have been looking to publish these as subpages to the periodical, and depending on how many works of the periodical that we may host, whether we subcategorise under the title, eg. by volume, by year, (pci your poison). There are a range of examples from Notes and Queries, New York Times, to little local newspapers.— billinghurst sDrewth 13:07, 9 August 2011 (UTC)

I had thought about that, and at this point I think your are right. There are a number of articles from the Torrey Bot. Club bulletin that I would like to post, so I'll make these subpages, probably organized by volume. Nonenmac (talk) 13:26, 9 August 2011 (UTC)

Sweet. The community (mainly Hesperian) has started doing botanical organisational, and that is over in the Portal: namespace. The Portal: ns is still pretty fluid in its construct, though we have settled on a LoC classification system (cos it is the only one that is in the public domain) and one of our admins is doing a great job of trailing along doing that classification for pages that have been created and contain {{portal header}}. — billinghurst sDrewth 14:24, 9 August 2011 (UTC)

Memoir of Lewis David von Schweinitz

Hi, I've sourced a djvu version of this work and put it at Index:A memoir of Lewis David von Schweinitz.djvu for you to proofread and then transclude from. If you need help with this, just let me know here. I'm watching this page so I'll see any responses. Cheers, Beeswaxcandle (talk) 06:24, 24 October 2011 (UTC)

Moving Your Files to Wikimedia Commons

Don't worry. He's watching your back. And yes, he's hosted on Commons.

Hello Nonenmac!

First, thank you for your contributions to Wikisource. Any contributions are always very much appreciated. While searching around, I noticed that you have some files that you uploaded to Wikisource that would probably serve the community better if it was on Wikimedia Commons, a media file repository. You can view your files to see which ones I'm referring to. See the Image Guidelines for more information.

Why should you do this?

As an example, let's pretend you extracted a hard-to-find image from a book written in 1870. If you upload it to Wikisource, only Wikisource users can use it. What if a user from Japan is writing an article about a similar topic? If your file is on Wikisource, it's unlikely he'll find it, and if he's lucky enough to find it, he still won't be able to use it easily. However, if you uploaded it to Commons, it's much more likely he'll find it and be able to use it. (Files hosted on Commons are accessible from any sister project) The same goes for any PDF or DJVU files you upload as well.

• Upload a file to Wikimedia Commons
• Wikimedia Commons Welcome Page
• A guide to contributing content to Wikimedia Commons

Note: To "move" a page from Wikisource to Commons is simple, but somewhat confusing if you don't know how to. First, upload the file to Commons with the same file name as you did here. Add the same information, making sure you put in the correct license. I suggest adding the {{Wikisource image}} template to its Commons page. Then edit the file's page at Wikisource and add the template {{Now Commons}}. Soon an administrator will complete the "move" by deleting the Wikisource copy (as it's no longer needed). You don't need to change any tags on Wikisource as they'll automatically point to the new file. Awesome!

If you have any questions or concerns, don't be afraid to ask.

The Haz _talk 04:15, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

File:Otsego Town of Burlington.png ++

Hi. These files

• File:Otsego Town of Burlington.png
• File:Edmeston NY Central School 1939.jpg; and
• File:Old Otsego County.png

are unused and sitting with no source information. If we can get the source and copyright data then we can transfer it to Commons. — billinghurst sDrewth 22:27, 29 September 2016 (UTC)

I added source information to the 2 map files, but File:Old Otsego County.png is already in commons under the name File:Simeon DeWitt Otsego County NY c.1792.png.

File:Edmeston NY Central School 1939.jpg is probably not in the public domain because it is dated 1939. So it should probably be deleted. -- Nonenmac (talk) 02:48, 30 September 2016 (UTC)