User talk:Susi Arnott

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Hello, Susi Arnott, and welcome to Wikisource! Thank you for joining the project. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers:

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Again, welcome! — billinghurst sDrewth 22:06, 3 August 2017 (UTC)

Species names in Niger Delta report..

In the transcription I treated the underlining on species names as a request for italics, and I've attempted to be consistent across the transcription. This was done in good faith.ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 21:50, 4 August 2017 (UTC) Thanks for this - I'd been checking the help thread that I started myself - which just seems to stop after I answered query about djvu derivation (from pdf, via online converter). Could you let me know how to link to what you're kindly doing? Must be obvious I'm very very newSusi Arnott (talk) 15:50, 6 August 2017 (UTC) ShakespeareFan00, I'm catching up with some of the wonderful work you've done. Impressed and delighted. You're right about consistency, which was a battle I lost! But this online version needs it.Susi Arnott (talk) 06:23, 10 August 2017 (UTC)

helpme

Firstly, thank you to everyone who's been patient with this newbie. I'd love to continue working on Niger Delta Ecosystems: the ERA Handbook 1998 but am flummoxed. Where and what is it now, and who has made what corrections? Not even clear how and where to find messages about the whole enterprise. Thanks again, but please advise - I could spend tomorrow afternoon on this, to at least get re-oriented, but don't even know where to go :)

Help page is a good starting point: Help:Beginner's guide to Wikisource.

The book is here: Index:Niger_Delta_Ecosystems-_the_ERA_Handbook,_1998.djvu. Click on any page, proofread it and if everything is OK for you, bring it to the next quality level (see colors below in each page, see also Help:Page_status).— Mpaa (talk) 19:55, 7 August 2017 (UTC)

helpme

Thanks again - things are getting clearer. One stumbling block is page numbers; realised I've deleted one thinking it was a random number on a page! How do they work online, and if so - is there a preferred position for them to appear? The index, chapters and sub-chapters, page numbers etc. have been an issue with the author even back when I was working with him to finish the printed version. But priority will be making a reference/primary source available to link to, refer to, etc.Susi Arnott (talk) 11:06, 8 August 2017 (UTC)

Attempting to upload images from original pdf and replace the 'placeholders' that don't seem to be good enough for the Wiki.

Hit this block: One of the categories lacks a description page. Are you sure you typed the name correctly?

Had hoped 'Nigeria' and 'Ecology' would already exist as categories in WikiWorld. What to do?Susi Arnott (talk) 15:46, 8 August 2017 (UTC)

Take one step at a time. IMHO you're trying to tackle too many new things at the same time. Get familiar with one and then move on. A good way of learning is observing others, I'd suggest you to follow Wikisource:Proofread_of_the_Month, so you can see what others do in the different areas. As far as the category is concerned, drop the problematic one, it can be added at a later stage.— Mpaa (talk) 21:21, 8 August 2017 (UTC)

Thanks Mpaa - how did you know I was interested in Melanesian anthropology? True. It's the time thing, but must be the same for everyone:)Susi Arnott (talk) 07:57, 9 August 2017 (UTC)

helpme

There's such a lot to learn, it's wonderful! But somebody has quite rightly found a section for which copyright isn't cleared; a policy statement from Shell. Is there 'fair use' for a certain word count, or should we find an online source to 'quote'? Any outline of the situation that I can put to the main author, would help enormously. Thanks for any helpSusi Arnott (talk) 19:08, 12 August 2017 (UTC)

Image 'placeholders' and proofreading

{{helpme}} Two problems still outstanding with proofreading https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Index:Niger_Delta_Ecosystems-_the_ERA_Handbook,_1998.djvu Mainly, I don't understand why images are flagged up as needing an upload to replace placeholders. (Tried this for page 7 but result seemed worse than original.) Pursuing the copyright issue for a Shell policy document quote (288 words), but would love to hear any comments on this also. Also wondering what happens next; who can 'validate' the proofreading, and then what? Thanks again for all the help on this journey! Susi Arnott (talk) 08:56, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

For Page:Niger Delta Ecosystems- the ERA Handbook, 1998.djvu/10 at least, it's because the image needs to be rotated. Basically, images need to be extracted from their pages, rotated, cleaned up, and otherwise made groovy, and then added to the page. Page 7 looks fine.

Validation can be done by anyone other than the user who did the initial proofreading (I just did page 7 for example). Sam Wilson 09:23, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

Thanks, Sam! The idiosyncratic orientation, size and general quality of images matches the original publication. I'm all for making them 'better' and more user-friendly. Now I just have to remember what I did for Page 7, if that's really 'successful'! Susi Arnott (talk) 09:34, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

Good point, but it is usual to rotate, and to a lesser extent clean up images (usually just increase contrast and perhaps make the background white or transparent, for black-and-white drawings). There's some info at Help:Adding images that might help (if anything there doesn't make sense, it'd be worth asking in the Scriptorium, so we can fix the docs). Sam Wilson 10:21, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

Thanks again - really appreciated. I'm looking at 'help - adding images' right now but wavered about installing imagemagick; getting to know another whole new bit of software might mean this never gets done! Can you explain difference between Scriptorium, and where we're chatting now? Making myself some 'how-to' notes for when I have time for working on this, and would love to know where to return to each time. But feel pleased that I made a 'proper front page' and the 'no-text' first page could now be deleted - if I knew how. See note in 'Discussion' for that page Susi Arnott (talk) 10:38, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

Hello User Talk; the Niger Delta Ecosystems book is all proof-read, just not validated. I've found a 'Help: Beginners' guide to finishing touches' for when that's done. (Is it best to simply await community approval, or actively solicit it?) I've drafted an 'author's page' in my Sandbox; is this the right procedure?Thanks again for all the support and engagement with this whole projectSusi Arnott (talk) 08:05, 22 August 2017 (UTC)

Definitely best to seek advice, or else you're liable to be ignored. :-) Not intentionally of course! One thing to do when you've finished proofreading and want some validators is to post on Wikisource:Scriptorium; most people have that page on their watchlist and will read what you post there. On this, your user talk page, you're limited to people who randomly drop by (or have previously edited, or who notice the {{helpme}}). And for the Author page, you can go ahead and create that in the Author namespace (be bold!) but do note that non-human authors get Portals rather than Author pages. Well done getting this far with Wikisource! It's good to have new contributors. Sam Wilson 08:53, 22 August 2017 (UTC)

Thanks - very much appreciated. Trying to make an authorpage for Oronto Douglas is harder than expected, too! But posterity probably should be this demanding.Susi Arnott (talk) 11:29, 24 August 2017 (UTC)

How to advance this? Headspace limited and getting full! Email tells me Billinghurst left me a message, but can't find it. Yikes. Community support is wonderful but I might not be up to the necessary level of understanding! Public holiday here in UK, so it's time to go out for a walk&thinkSusi Arnott (talk) 08:41, 28 August 2017 (UTC)

@Beeswaxcandle: Thanks for the acknowledgement; encourages me to try and contribute more. Couple of photographer friends wanting to put work in the public domain; will find out more tomorrowSusi Arnott (talk) 09:33, 1 October 2017 (UTC)