User talk:TeleComNasSprVen

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Again, welcome! — billinghurst sDrewth 08:16, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

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I have reverted some of the speedy deletes that you created for redirects to DNB entries. These articles will be appearing as we step through the project so may as well continue to exist. — billinghurst sDrewth 08:16, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

Bacon's Essays

I've uploaded the two scans of Bacon's Essays: File:Bacons Essays 1908 West.djvu (ed. by Alfred S. West) and File:Essays of Francis Bacon 1908 edition.djvu (ed. by Mary Augusta Scott). The second one currently links back to the article here, though unless it's clear that one or the other was used for the text that we have there is no reason to not use the first if you prefer. The next step would be to create an index page here.--Doug.^{(talk • contribs)} 00:55, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

I think you are approaching this from the wrong direction,

• If you want the Bartelby text then add that, if you want to add the annotations then make sure they are public domain.
• If you want to add your own annotations you need to provide that in a separate version, the priority is to get the published text.
• If you want one of the editions in the djvu files above, then start correcting the pages and use their annotations.

A combination of these approaches will be counter productive, and match and split is only going to make the situation more confusing. If you decide to to take one of these approaches I will be happy to show how, I would like to see this text at site. cygnis insignis 10:21, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

• Cygnis has a point here, I didn't realize the text that's up is yet another annotation and references the P.F. COLLIER & SON COMPANY (1909-1914) Charles W. Eliot Harvard Classics edition published by P.F. Collier & Son Company in 1909.. Sorry if I put you on the wrong track when I suggested Match and Split was the answer. I was focused on getting a basic supporting text for the Essays themselves. If the Collier & Son text is available online that would be preferable to be matched to the existing text though the main body of the work other than the footnotes, should be virtually identical. The text can still be botted in but match and split may not have been the best answer (though we could easily undo the mainspace portion and have the same effect. If you really want to work with the West edition (which has a lot of advantages, including more annotations), then we should probably have both. Cyg is also right, you should make sure any annotations are in the "original" (the Public Domain text you're working from - in this case either West or Collier & Son) or are otherwise consistent with the spirit of our annotation guideline. If you plan to annotate the work it belongs at WikiBooks.

• Here it is if you really want it but it's several books by Bacon, Milton, and Browne all in one volume. Better to use West I think for your purpose, but your call. --Doug.^{(talk • contribs)} 17:41, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

• • I have organized Index:The_Harvard_Classics_Vol._3.djvu so that you can tell where Bacon's Essays start and I got a bot to move Essays (Francis Bacon) to Essays, civil and moral (Harvard Classics) (the former now being a versions page as you can see here. You may also want to take a look at how I've set up The Harvard Classics Vol. 3, they could all use some prettying up and the latter should eventually be the first few pages of the book with the table of contents from the book, which could be transcluded from the first page of Essays, civil and moral - or vice versa. NOW you can match and split the text against this djvu and import the remaining text so that we have it all (but stick to Eliot's edition or put it somewhere else). There's no problem putting the bare text into Eliot's edition, some day you or someone else will proofread it. At some point I need to go through and tag the old subpages for deletion.--Doug.^{(talk • contribs)} 22:07, 6 February 2011 (UTC)