User talk:Victoriaearle
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Again, welcome! --Prosfilaes (talk) 06:09, 25 June 2015 (UTC)
If you wish to discuss the copyright of certain works, please add {{copyvio}} to them and add a discussion to Wikisource:Possible copyright violations. Removing the links from that page merely reduced the ability for people to find them. In the case of these works, it is believed they lost copyright when they weren't renewed 28 years after publication, with the Paris publication starting the clock. Even if the clock started in 1925, the only renewal I see for Hemingway in 1925 is for "In Our Time", which is not one of the works you disputed. You're welcome to bring them up to Wikisource:Possible copyright violations if you still contest their public domain status.--Prosfilaes (talk) 06:09, 25 June 2015 (UTC)
- Hi Prosfilaes, thanks for the message. Hemingway's 1924 edition of in our time (without capital letters) did not include the short stories I disputed. The stories I disputed were first published in the 1925 New York edition of In Our Time published by Boni & Liveright. When they published the collection, Boni & Liveright secured copyright for all the stories (some had previously been published in small literary magazines in Paris) and the vignettes published in the 1924 edition. The two stories I removed were in the 1925 edition. Scribners subsequently bought and renewed copyright for all the stories/vignettes in 1930. They renewed copyright in 1953 and perhaps again since. See discussion here (although it's regarding an image). There was some question about the copyright status of the vignettes from the 1924 edition but according to sources I've recently secured via inter-library loan, Scribners assumed those copyrights in 1930 and as I said renewed in 1953, and again in 1958. I see these stories are now available in e-books, but I think it would be best for someone to contact Scribner's to find out who holds copyright and when the copyrights were renewed. I made the deletions out of caution. Please feel free to copy this post to any discussion. Although I do a lot of work on en.WP, this is only the second time I've ever been here and would like to avoid a huge long discussion. If this information is insufficient and you need more, I might be interested in contacting Scribners to find out about the copyright status. Thanks, Victoriaearle (talk) 10:50, 25 June 2015 (UTC)
- Adding: the publisher has a website to enquire about copyright: Hemingwaypermissions@simonandshuster.com, and the Hemingway Society has a permissions page here. The Hemingway Estate still claims copyright on most of the work. Victoriaearle (talk) 11:22, 25 June 2015 (UTC)