User talk:Xover

Index:The Autobiography Of Calvin Coolidge.djvu

Are you planning to undelete it as it's New Year's Day? Norbillian (talk) 13:16, 1 January 2025 (UTC)

As Xover is having trouble finding time to participate, I have taken the liberty of doing so myself. — Alien  3
3 3 14:00, 1 January 2025 (UTC)

@Alien333: Thanks! Xover (talk) 15:37, 1 January 2025 (UTC)

Request

Hi, could you check out the request MediaWiki talk:Gadget-charinsert-core.css? It's been pending for a while. No pressure of course. —Matrix(!) _{ping one}^{when replying} {user - talk? - _uselesscontributions} 21:17, 1 January 2025 (UTC)

@Matrix: Done. I am the only Interface Admin on the project so feel free to ping me for things like this and I'll try to prioritise them. Xover (talk) 09:25, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

Template:Archives

Can you examine why this is showing up in Special:LintErrors/night-mode-unaware-background-color, Does a style sheet need updating? Only 114 lints remain in the category and most seem to be tied to specfic templates, albiet nested. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 12:00, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

Two requests

There are two interface edit requests at MediaWiki talk:Gadget-Preload Page Images.js and MediaWiki talk:Gadget-PageNumbers-core.js#Bug detecting if page does not exist, that should be pretty straightforward to deal with. I'd appreciate if you could take a look, when you can. Thanks, — Alien  3
3 3 13:26, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

spl4, wireless book, and big red letters

The following message contains no complaints; it contains missing history.

The last time I was here, I asked that you redo a djvu. Since that time, you mostly disappeared and I got my script working and fixed it myself. So this is all good!

Fairly recently, I made a request (I think at spl3 talk) for an spl4 that does not turn bold when linked to the same Page: and you wrote it. It doesn't say that you wrote that now (which is a complaint, but not directed at you but rather at that your history there is missing).

Even longer before this, I was working on the list of fables here and found a bug in the wdl module. You fixed the bug by (I think) causing the module to not pull in every part of the data. The bug showed itself by moving back on the list when a new version was added to one of the fables that occurred on the page before the page broke. Versions was unnecessary data for wdl to work and you fixed that.

I mention that one in particular because I could not find it in your archives; I did quit looking because of a subst occurring in another search earlier. Also, I am not linking to anything here; but I remember more than these three things. You are long-winded and productive and always decent to people.

Have you been cherry-picked (that's a git thing).--RaboKarbakian (talk) 13:30, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

@RaboKarbakian: Thanks for the kind words. I think you're mistaken about {{scan page link 4}}: I'm pretty sure I've never touched those templates. Regarding {{wdl}} you're probably thinking of this change. Xover (talk) 14:58, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

I am more honest than kind. I am really glad to have that link as either I or someone else from the Book/Publication group at wikidata needs to change the way they handle the wikilinks. Someone like User:EncycloPetey who should look at this.

I also need to figure out the words I need to tell a software layperson how the pedias will break if they are having to sort through all the versions to find their language-code:source versions to render the page. I think that 30 or 50 in a minute will break them. The fables wasn't that much; no more than five versions for most of them and it was breaking after 30 (I think; but my memory is biased towards what I want and the fear I want to share).

I am somewhat hoping that you have some of these words and that by poking Petey, those words can be read and I will not be entirely alone there trying to ask them to call off the "You are not linking the way this project wants you to" bots.

The poor book project warriors. They are without redirects (we have had rules against those) and they keep setting their data up so that it will break the wikipedias. And truly, they should only be making rules for the data; the wikilinks are so the wikis can link, not part of the book data following publishers logic. Wikilinks follow "wikilogic"; a true consensus bred oxymoron if there were ever one.--RaboKarbakian (talk) 19:17, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

I can look at things, if there is a specific proposal. Saying "they should change things" is not a specific proposal.

Please cease calling me a bot. Doing so is dehumanizing and uncivil, as it seems to imply that I do not merit the basic courtesy due a human. Please correct this behavior immediately, and consider issuing an apology. --EncycloPetey (talk) 19:29, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

MediaWiki:Gadget-PageNumbers-core.js crash

It is now crashing with an error about the escape line 507. It's an internal error about s (presumably the argument) not having a .replace function, which probably means name's not a string. (Copying this here from the talk, as you wrote pings were unlikely to reach you.) — Alien  3
3 3 17:20, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Appears to only do so for redlink pagespans. Forget about that, hadn't purged a page. — Alien  3
3 3 17:25, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Appears to be because $(page_span).data('page-number') returns a number, not a string. Could be fixed with a .toString(), but the page spans all come from MediaWiki:Proofreadpage pagenum template, which always adds an ID, so we could just simplify the expression of name to page_span.id. — Alien  3
3 3 17:39, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

@Alien333: Yeah, the caching is pretty annoying. Makes debug cycles frustrating as all heck. Xover (talk) 17:46, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

@Alien333: There we go. Should be all good now. Xover (talk) 18:02, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

MediaWiki:Gadget-PageNumbers-core.js causing issue with film transcriptions

Now, the page numbers on the side of all film transcriptions are broken. Examples: A Few Moments with Eddie Cantor, When the Cat's Away (film). Clicking "Page links beside text" in Vector 2010 gives me "[undefined]" for all the pages. I'm pretty sure this is related to the recent Gadget edits. Since I can't edit this page, could you please investigate? Thank you. SnowyCinema (talk) 22:36, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

@SnowyCinema: You did see the part where {{page}} is deprecated, right? Anyway, I've updated it now so it should working now (until the next thing breaks). Xover (talk) 06:36, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

@Xover: Thanks for fixing it. Yes, I am aware of its deprecation, but to my best of remembrance, it was all that could be done with films specifically because of a technical issue with ProofreadPage itself, in relation to displaying the timestamps properly. I'll be looking into this again soon, though, as part of a larger project I have scheduled for this year to fix a lot of film's problems at long last. SnowyCinema (talk) 14:27, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

DjVu for Street Scene

Would you be amenable to generating a DjVu file from this IA copy? No rush, as I have plenty of options to work on, but this is the newly-PD Pulitzer winner for Drama, and I would very much like to work on it from a DjVu. --EncycloPetey (talk) 04:54, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

@EncycloPetey: File:Street Scene (1929).djvu. Minimal quality control so you'll want to check it thoroughly. Xover (talk) 05:50, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

Updates to MediaWiki:Gadget-Visibility.js

I've updated the code for the visibility gadget, adding support for {{esszett}} and {{ss}}. Could I ask you to review the code in User:CalendulaAsteraceae/sandbox.js, and implement my edits if you don't have any concerns? —CalendulaAsteraceae (talk • contribs) 02:59, 14 January 2025 (UTC)

@CalendulaAsteraceae: Is this still relevant in light of WS:PD#Template:Esszett? Xover (talk) 07:47, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

It's definitely a lot less pressing, since the only meaningful changes I made apart from adding support for {{esszett}} was adding handling for the {{ss}} styling, which I'm starting to think is a bad idea.

That said, I've made a few changes that make the code more readable, and explicitly set the SameSite property for the cookie rather than rely on browser defaults, so I would still appreciate you reviewing my (now more modest) changes. —CalendulaAsteraceae (talk • contribs) 04:10, 18 January 2025 (UTC)

DjVu for Green Pastures

It seems that another Pulitzer has entered PD this year. Could you please create a DjVu file from the IA copy for it? --EncycloPetey (talk) 17:50, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

@EncycloPetey: File:The Green Pastures (1929).djvu. I just skim-checked pagination, nothing else. Xover (talk) 08:02, 28 January 2025 (UTC)

Thanks. --EncycloPetey (talk) 13:31, 28 January 2025 (UTC)

MediaWiki talk:Gadgets-definition

There's an interface edit request over there that could use your help, if you have the time. Cheers, — Alien  3
3 3 16:27, 25 January 2025 (UTC)

@Alien333: Thanks. I'll take a look. Xover (talk) 12:26, 26 January 2025 (UTC)

MediaWiki talk:Gadget-ocr.js

Hi, when you have time could you please look at my edit request at MediaWiki talk:Gadget-ocr.js? Thank you, —Matrix(!) _{ping one}^{when replying} {user - talk? - _uselesscontributions} 10:38, 8 February 2025 (UTC)

MediaWiki talk:Gadget-Site.css

Hi there! another interface edit request over there (to locally revert the V22 paragraph spacing). — Alien  3
3 3 20:24, 28 February 2025 (UTC)

MediaWiki talk:Gadget-PageNumbers-core.css

Hello again (and a bit sorry for all the talk page messages, but you're the only intadmin, and you said you couldn't watch pings, so...) Anyhow, there's a little dark mode fix for footnotes to do over there (using variables). — Alien  3
3 3 17:20, 2 March 2025 (UTC)

@Alien333: No worries; just ping me here as often as you need to. I would much much rather get these pings than go unaware that there's a need for an interface admin. Xover (talk) 17:44, 2 March 2025 (UTC)

the next big problem: interwiki links between language source wiki

I just made a data for a Polish wikisource for The New Accelerator. They just used the data for our Amazing Stories version, which was also 1926. If they had hijacked d:Q7753474 I would have been glad and left it there. How many Polish translations are there?

So, now I am thinking about how to get this pl.ws link to our versions page. And I am thinking that the only way to do it is to make a redirect at Polish source to put onto that main (not a version) data. Most of the links I have found that have hijacked our versions have been Japanese. Maybe some Russian also.

To make these redirects, I would need permission from the "redirect deleters" at those sources, if they exist. Also, my "Dick and Jane"^[1] eyes/brain would have to submit more than they have already. It is scary to paste foreign script and this seems biased (because it is) but the more unlike my own alphabet it is, the more scary it is.

So, I am here first (consider yourself less scary than pasting foreign scripts) because maybe there is another solution to this. Version pages shuffling through the data looking for source links to other wiki would not be so bad as the fable page, but I think that the redirects is by far the better of the two options. Perhaps there is a third that is better than the other two except for not having been thought of yet.

This is off the top of my head where many things there are a mess: I will clarify whenever necessary.--RaboKarbakian (talk) 21:16, 5 March 2025 (UTC)

1. I read about a "font bias" that the few generations of children in the US who learned to read from these same books. All of us; maybe two whole generations. And I believe it.

Plays for 2025

Here is a list of the plays I would like to complete this year, but for which I do not have a DjVu. If you have the time, could you please provide DjVu files?

The first two will definitely need to be uploaded locally, as the books are UK published and Murray, an anglo-Australian, died in 1957. The third one may need to be uploaded locally; I am unsure of the status for a book published in Japan in 1907 where the author died in 1947.

• The Alcestis of Euripides, repr. (1915), transl. by Murray (external scan) (UK / Australia, d.1957) (start transcription)
• The Bacchae of Euripides, 2nd ed. (1906), transl. by Murray (external scan) (UK / Australia, d.1957) (start transcription)
• Ten Kiogen in English (1907), transl. by Yone Noguchi (external scan) (Japan, d.1947) (start transcription)
• The Creditor (1910) by August Strindberg (external scan) (start transcription)
• He Who Gets Slapped (Andreyev) (translator Zilboorg; Russia, d. 1959) (external scan) (start transcription)
• The Phantom (1856) by Dion Boucicault (external scan) (start transcription)
• The Adding Machine (1923) by Elmer Rice (external scan) (start transcription)
• Euripides, Vol. II, transl. Arthur S. Way. I recommend saving as File:Euripides (Way 1929) v2.djvu to match the Sophocles volumes from the set. (external scan) (start transcription)

These will likely be the only remaining ones I will need for the year. No hurry on any these, as I have projects occupying my time for March. Thanks, --EncycloPetey (talk) 20:49, 10 March 2025 (UTC)

I have added just one more the the end of the list, and yes, it is just volume II (out of IV). This volume has a play not present in the earlier edition of Way that I've been working on. Since the other three volumes duplicate content we already have, or soon will have, those other volumes are not needed. --EncycloPetey (talk) 04:10, 19 March 2025 (UTC)

@EncycloPetey: All should be done now, albeit with very superficial quality control. I've added {{ssl}} links to the list above.

The Japanese work was published while the Japanese term was pma. 50 and had expired before the term was extended to pma. 70, so I uploaded it to Commons. Xover (talk) 11:19, 23 March 2025 (UTC)

Thanks so much! --EncycloPetey (talk) 13:57, 23 March 2025 (UTC)

Paragraph spacing, again

Could you, if you can find the time, answer at MediaWiki talk:Gadget-Site.css? Jan also pointed out something interesting, which is that we will be wanting to revert it in running text, because paragraphs that were given extra spacing in the source (which we do by something like margin-top:1em), now appear to just be normal. — Alien  3
3 3 08:30, 15 March 2025 (UTC)