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Latest comment: 3 months ago by Alien333 in topic Bold levels
Bold levels
[edit]The current bold levels don't seem to match the original: the first paragraph seems to be at least as bold in the source as the third paragraph; the footer also seems just as bold. If they're not bold fonts, then is the middle paragraph using a light font? Can the original fonts and font weights be identified? And if so, should these be set using css font-weight
instead? --YodinT 22:40, 27 August 2023 (UTC)
- Another user has bolded the footer, and I've done the same for the first paragraph. Would still be good to try to find the right font weights if possible. --YodinT 12:00, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
- Note: I'm not sure, but it seems to me that sanitized CSS doesn't support font-weights other than normal or bold, e.g.
font weight 500
is the same asfont weight 300
, andfont weight 600
is the same asfont weight 700
(the spans have the corresponding font weight). I'm also pretty sure this is not a browser issue, as the MDN examples work perfectly well for me. — Alien333 ( what I did
why I did it wrong ) 15:06, 3 September 2024 (UTC)- Thanks for looking into this! I think it might be because the default
sans-serif
andserif
fonts on most systems don't support many font weights? (while the MDN example uses specific fonts that do support it). I've tried a few of the webfonts from Extension:UniversalLanguageSelector and found at least one that does supportfont-weight
, partially:- Noto Sans 100
- Noto Sans 200
- Noto Sans 300
- Noto Sans 400
- Noto Sans 500
- Noto Sans 600
- Noto Sans 700
- Noto Sans 800
- Noto Sans 900
- This displays as three different font-weights to me (100–300, 400–500, 600–900). It might be necessary to request new web fonts that supports multiple font-weights in order to request this... which doesn't seem a feasible solution. Maybe in the future OSes will have fonts that support these by default. --YodinT 20:39, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
- For me, it's all the same. I think specific font-weights fall anyway into that area of things we consider not worth being reproduced, like columns of text, fonts, and proportions of letters. The heavier ones are all reasonably close to bold, and the lighter ones are never used (or at least I never saw them in use). — Alien333 ( what I did
why I did it wrong ) 20:45, 3 September 2024 (UTC)- Yep, normally I'd agree, it just seems like font weight is pretty integral in this specific case (i.e. it's a sampler showing different font weights). I'm still not sure if the first and last paragraphs are bold, and the middle one is normal font weight (in which case it's fine, as you say), or if the first and last paragraphs are normal and the middle one is light. If anyone does eventually identify the original fonts, it should give a definite answer. --YodinT 20:54, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
- Not an expert, but when comparing with the title (which is bold/normal), I think that the text is bold/normal/bold. — Alien333 ( what I did
why I did it wrong ) 21:30, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
- Not an expert, but when comparing with the title (which is bold/normal), I think that the text is bold/normal/bold. — Alien333 ( what I did
- Yep, normally I'd agree, it just seems like font weight is pretty integral in this specific case (i.e. it's a sampler showing different font weights). I'm still not sure if the first and last paragraphs are bold, and the middle one is normal font weight (in which case it's fine, as you say), or if the first and last paragraphs are normal and the middle one is light. If anyone does eventually identify the original fonts, it should give a definite answer. --YodinT 20:54, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
- For me, it's all the same. I think specific font-weights fall anyway into that area of things we consider not worth being reproduced, like columns of text, fonts, and proportions of letters. The heavier ones are all reasonably close to bold, and the lighter ones are never used (or at least I never saw them in use). — Alien333 ( what I did
- Thanks for looking into this! I think it might be because the default
- Note: I'm not sure, but it seems to me that sanitized CSS doesn't support font-weights other than normal or bold, e.g.