User talk:Ankry

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I did not got the permission for school song. How can i get it??--Prathamprakash29 (talk) 09:08, 8 May 2014 (UTC)

Talk:Remembering Adrianne Wadewitz by National Collaborative for Women's History Sites

This ticket link does not work for me. Has anything changed in the interface? Does the link work wor you? Ankry (talk) 06:05, 9 May 2014 (UTC)

Ankry, I'm no longer on the OTRS ticket team, so I can't view it myself. -- Cirt (talk) 14:39, 9 May 2014 (UTC)

I've left a message at User talk:Clarkcj12 for User:Clarkcj12 to help with fixing this. -- Cirt (talk) 14:41, 9 May 2014 (UTC)

Can you check this to see if it now works for you also? -- Cirt (talk) 20:21, 9 May 2014 (UTC)

Automated import of openly licensed scholarly articles

Hello Ankry,

We are putting together a proposal about the automated import of openly licensed scholarly articles, and since you are an active Wikisourceror, we'd appreciate yourcomments on the Scriptorium. For convenience, I'm copying our proposal here:

The idea of systematically importing openly licensed scholarly articles into Wikisource has popped up from time to time. For instance, it formed the core of WikiProject Academic Papers and is mentioned in the Wikisource vision. However, the Wikiproject relied on human power, never reached its full potential, and eventually became inactive. The vision has yet to materialise.

We plan to bridge the gap through automation. We are a subset of WikiProject Open Access (user:Daniel Mietchen, user:Maximilanklein, user:MattSenate), and we have funding from the Open Society Foundations via Wikimedia Deutschland to demo suitable workflows at Wikimania (see project page).

Specifically, we plan to import Open Access journal articles into Wikisource when they are cited on Wikipedia. The import would be performed by a group of bots intended to make reference handling more interoperable across Wikimedia sites. Their main tasks are:

• (on Wikipedia) signalling which references are openly licensed, and link them to the full text on Wikisource, the media on Commons and the metadata on Wikidata;
• (on Commons) importing images and other media associated with the source article;
• (on Wikisource) importing the full text of the source article and embedding the media in there;
• (on Wikidata) handling the metadata associated with the source article, and signalling that the full text is on Wikisource and the media on Commons.

These Open Access imports on Wikisource will be linked to and from other Wikimedia sister sites. Our first priority though will be linking from English Wikipedia, focusing on the most cited Open Access papers, and the top-100 medical articles.

In order to move forward with this, we need

• General community approval
• Community feedback on workflows and scrutiny on our test imports in specific.
• Bot permission. For more technical information read our bot spec on Github.

Maximilianklein (talk) 18:26, 20 June 2014 (UTC)

AkBot

You must first obtain permission before running a Bot on Wikisource. --EncycloPetey (talk) 22:50, 11 November 2015 (UTC)

Request

May I answer you here at your talk page with regard to your request? Londonjackbooks (talk) 13:48, 22 January 2018 (UTC)

@Londonjackbooks: Sure. Ankry (talk) 13:50, 22 January 2018 (UTC)

I will look into seeing whether I can find a scanned copy of the work (or request a scan). If not, perhaps an interlibrary loan, in which case, I might be able to scan myself—depending on the condition of the book &c. It may take some time, but I will keep you posted. Londonjackbooks (talk) 13:56, 22 January 2018 (UTC)

It would be great if you succed. I would appreciate this very much. (For tracking: this section is about: M. Koroway-Metelicki, Poezye, Petersburg 1893.) Ankry (talk) 14:09, 22 January 2018 (UTC)

Have placed an interlibrary loan request with my local library. Requested scan (if available), and if not, physical copy. Crossing fingers :) Londonjackbooks (talk) 14:13, 22 January 2018 (UTC)

Current status of the ILL is "Awaiting Conditional Processing", which means a lending library is attaching further questions or conditions about the loan request. Londonjackbooks (talk) 12:44, 31 January 2018 (UTC)

Have hit a roadblock. Received the following message:

A request you placed for:

Title: Poezye
Author: Koroway-Metelicki, Michal
Format: Book

has been cancelled by the interlibrary loan staff for the following reason: ____ Public Library cannot borrow this item as we do not have the archival controls necessary to safeguard its condition.

I will try to contact the holding library directly about the possibility of getting scans. Londonjackbooks (talk) 20:50, 9 February 2018 (UTC)

Ossendowski

I laud your Ossendowski uploads, but being somewhat of a pain in the neck, I must point out that placing the author's name in front of the file name is not a good practice. Uploaded to the commons commons:File:Beasts Men and Gods.djvu, and then came across the book you currently working on and I checked, . . . too bad for me.

In addition, a better place to download is from is Internet Archive, only because they have numerous copies of most items and previous downloaders often comment on a book's condition. — Ineuw talk 21:54, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

@Ineuw: I never considered that the file name on Commons is somewhat critical: thare are various conventions in use, so I choose the one actually convenient to me: as I was uploading few Ossendowski's books in various languages, placing the author's name in front made it easier to me to separate them from other books on my local disk. Also, I found that using only the title is also not good as the title is very often non-unique. I always attempt to categorize books at least by author and by language.

If you wish to rename tha files, feel free to do it. I do not object and can help. Just let me know. However, moving Page: pages requires a flagged bot, IMO.

Probably our experiences vary, but I often find Google OCR better than the IA one. So my choice here. Also, the book I have choosen seems to have the original cover.

I have added four Ossendowski's books that I intend to proofread. I am also considering the fifth one, but this one is incomplete (the title page, the copyright page and initial pages of the preface are missing at least). Do you know anybody who can help finding another (physical) copy in a library and scanning the few missing pages? There is none in the libraries accessible to me (and no other copy in digital ones). Lenin is still copyrighted in US.

I am not planning to become a regular contributor in en.ws; just gathering some experience among various wikisources. And I have choosen books by Ossendowski (who is one of the most widely translated Polish writers) to do that. Ankry (talk) 22:57, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

@Ankry: I am a bit of a neat-freak and favour consistency, (which I like about your file names). Don't change anything. My concern is about web searches. The easiest way to deal with this is when these books are transcluded to the main namespace, create a redirect for the original title as well. I believe that web search engines index redirects, but I don't think that .djvu files are.

The original book about Lenin was published in 1933, and AFAIK we don't use anything past 1923. But the book is available on Internet Archive uploaded by the Library of India. Good for them :-) but not for us.

P.S. Also regret that you are not planning to be a regular contributor. :-( — Ineuw talk 00:31, 20 September 2018 (UTC)

Multipage score module..

It was my understanding that you had implemented a solution for a score split over multiple pages on Polish Wikisource, would it be possible for you to import the module so it can be used here, and possibly extended so it can also optionally take into account LST sections, where a page may contain multiple scores?

Thanks. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 15:30, 3 May 2019 (UTC)

Sure. It is also available in oldwikisource:. But undeocumented yet...

OOPS, I mean I can upload it here, as you can as well. I am not admin here. Ankry (talk) 15:38, 3 May 2019 (UTC)

@ShakespeareFan00: imported; your request inclined me to prepare some doc; hopefully it is clear... Ankry (talk) 18:34, 3 May 2019 (UTC)

On the Bright Shore

Please refer to the Style Guide regarding the naming of subpages in a work. The subpage for chapter 3 should be named On the Bright Shore/Chapter 3 rather than On the Bright Shore/3. --EncycloPetey (talk) 16:08, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

Chronological Table of the Statutes...

As you seem to be adept at building the transclusions for things, it would be much appreciated if you could at some point look into helping build this and the relevant sub-pages,

https://en.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Chronological_Table_and_Index_of_the_Statutes/Chronological_Table&redirect=no

An example of the Transcluded pages approach is here Chronological_Table_and_Index_of_the_Statutes/Chronological_Table/5Geo1 The table was split from the original because of it's size. However this means the transclusion construction is somewhat more involved.

Thanks greatly in advance for any assistance you can give in continuing it's construction, at least as far as 1800. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 21:59, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

@ShakespeareFan00: AFAICS, <pages> tag cannot be used here as there is a <div> generated around its content (and this constitutes a requirement that the whole wikitable has to be generated inside <pages>. On the other hand, generating wikitables inside page content, might be incompatible in some cases with ## section syntax used here (more than one section containing the same part of page content would be required - eg. via nested sections, unsupported by ## syntax).

I have created a helper template that might simplify generating pages using current, {{page}} based syntax. However, in my opinion, the whole process might be automated. But some time ago my request for permission to use a helper bot for such automated jobs was rejected (both: with & without the bot flag) for reason that is unclear to me. So I avoid doing such automated work myself, leaving this to authorized bot operators. If somebody wishes to do it manually, they are welcome. However, I will not as (IMO) this is waste of time and potential source of mistakes (typos). Ankry (talk) 15:50, 29 June 2019 (UTC)

Okay thanks for taking a look though:) ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 15:53, 29 June 2019 (UTC)

UKSI and UKSRO template families.

Thanks for the fix on the page you made.. Much appreciated if someone of your calibre could also do a technical review on the template family, with a view to trying to move as much as possible into structuring templates with a CSS style sheet overall.

I reformaulated some of the template recently to try and make it easier to work with know issues around P-wrapping. It would be nice if the levels could be nested, which on an initali look, might just be as simple as adding specific rules to the stylesheet.

I also recently set an alias of the /e template to /^ with this in mind, and to partly match the approach used on the Template:Tl/ukgpa family, which could also do with a technical review. Thanks in advance. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 12:12, 16 October 2024 (UTC)

Did something change with Proofread page, putting in a blank line used to cause a P end, it doesn't seem to currently?

https://en.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Page:UGANDA_AND_THE_EGYPTIAN_SOUDAN.djvu/31&action=edit&oldid=14561973

The footer content seemingly combines with main body. Previously there was a definite break, and a blank-line should have been present.

Did something change recently? ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 08:02, 18 October 2024 (UTC)

@ShakespeareFan00: If you place some code containing <div>-based formating (eg. a template with a div) in a line, the parser interprets the text preceding and following the div in the line as separate paragraphs, eg.:

some text
some text <div>with a div</div> inside
some other text

some text

some text

with a div

inside

some other text

So it is advised to place such divs (or templates containing the divs) in separate lines of wikicode.

Proofreadpage combines header, text and footer using spaces, not new lines, while displaying the page content (actually, this behaviour was changed some time ago - I do not know why). So in order to avoid such problems you need to add the newline in some way (inside the template or over the template).

Similar problem may appear in main namespace after merging subsequent pages: - first, containing multi-line text only - second, with a div-based template in its first line. (in pl.ws we advise to use a separate line with <nowiki/> at the end of first page in such cases)

Another workaround may be just placing the whole paragraph text in a single line (we suggest this in pl.ws).

I am not sure if the underlying parser behaviour should be called bug or feature and unsure where it should be fixed (parser, proofreadpage, templates, or directly in wiki - like I did). Ankry (talk) 09:19, 18 October 2024 (UTC)

The only DIV based templates in the linked page are the header and the {{nop}} if I omit the nop. The footer and content get combined, DESPITE adding a newline at the start of the footer, which didn't make sense. I added a {{nop}} , but I don't consider that a long term solution. Elsewhere I've previously commented that it's not reasonable to presume contributors understand the whitespace handling in any depth. It would be nice to have some kind of {{#tidy:}} directive to replace nop, nopf, nopt etc.. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 09:48, 18 October 2024 (UTC)

Yes, sorry, I did not read your message carefully. However, if you read above how text and footer are merged you will understand this behaviour.

Without a newline the parser has got:

<main_text>... They have as great an aversion to a straight line as nature</main_text> <footer>vol. 1.                                   c</footer>

and with a single newline:

<main_text>... They have as great an aversion to a straight line as nature</main_text> <footer>
vol. 1.                                   c</footer>

That does not make much difference for the parser. (The markers <main_text> & <footer> added by me for clarification.)

Note also that multiple spaces are ignored in HTML (they are the same as a single space). You cannot use spaces for formatting.

If the footer contains unformatted text, you need two newlines here. However, this probably should be fixed inside proofreadpage. I think, someone assumed that header & footer always include formatting if not empty - this is their common use. Ankry (talk) 10:10, 18 October 2024 (UTC)