User talk:Overthrows

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Again, welcome! --EncycloPetey (talk) 02:51, 21 October 2018 (UTC)

Uploading images

Images should be uploaded to Commons, rather than locally. Wikisource generally does not host scans of images, except when the images are PD in the US, but still copyrighted in their country of origin.

For any works originally published in the US before 1923, they will be PD, and the images can be uploaded to Commons. --EncycloPetey (talk) 03:02, 21 October 2018 (UTC)

Executive Orders of the US President will also be PD. Scans of such documents should be uploaded to Commons. --EncycloPetey (talk) 17:48, 21 October 2018 (UTC)

Gosh darn it I knew I forgot something. Sorry again. EggOfReason (talk) 20:25, 21 October 2018 (UTC)

Chinese in bold

It is generally recommended that Chinese characters not be made bold in texts. Making Chinese characters bold makes them harder to read, since details of the character can be obscured.

In the sources you are proofreading, the characters may appear bold because of the line thickness, but this appears to be an artefact of the character size, rather than actual bold text. Compare with the line with of the other large English text on the page. --EncycloPetey (talk) 19:57, 23 December 2019 (UTC)

@EncycloPetey: Yeah, comparing the weights, it seems better to unbold the Chinese characters. I was already wary of the bold affecting readability, and looking at the text, it makes sense. Thanks for letting me know! EggOfReason (talk) 20:21, 23 December 2019 (UTC)

Encyclopaedia Britannica 1st edition - the long 's'

Hi there. I was going to do some work on this text (having done bits and bobs on EB1911 and a lot of EB9 Volume 23). However, I was somewhat dismayed to see that you are persisting with the long 's'. Noting the discussion on your talk page about Chinese characters in bold being difficult to read, the same applies to words with the long s in. Since we are transcribing the text, not reproducing it, my view is that using the long 's' is unnecessary, simply adding to the time it takes to do the job and making the end product less readable. Any chance you might reconsider? Regards, Chris Chrisguise (talk) 23:02, 11 April 2020 (UTC)

@Chrisguise: Sorry for the long wait on a reply. Absolutely feel free to remove the long s, since yes, after a long while of stubbornly sticking with them, I think I have fully pivoted on including all those little templates. Thanks, EggOfReason (talk) 23:34, 22 April 2020 (UTC)

OK, thanks for getting back to me. I'll give it a shot.Chrisguise (talk) 09:21, 23 April 2020 (UTC)

Re. your query regarding carrying over hanging indent in the style guidance. I think it should carry over if you put the {{hi/e}} in the footer and start the next page with {{hi/m}} in the header. Appears to be 'm' for middle, whereas other indent templates use 'c' for continue(d)!Chrisguise (talk) 19:19, 23 April 2020 (UTC)

removal of SP tags across Sacred Books of the East - Volume 13

Hello! You were doing some proofreading in Sacred Books of the East - Volume 13, for example here. In the printed edition the Sanskrit/Pali words are typed in a sparse font, and I had been trying to preserve that convention. Now I see that removed and I do not quite understand your reasons. Can you please tell me what these removals mean? --Tar-ba-gan (talk) 14:06, 22 July 2020 (UTC)

@Tar-ba-gan: Hello! My apologies for removing the sp tags, since I started editing the Sacred Books series early on and I didn't realize it was a typographical convention. I've made sure to keep them in Volume 1, but I'm afraid the other early edits on the Buddhist sutras must've stayed. I'll reimplement the spacing if I can. Thanks for letting me know, EggOfReason (talk) 14:09, 22 July 2020 (UTC)

Well, now that I looked twice, I have to say I mostly care about my longest project, Volume 21. I have been with it for so long. I do not really care so much about formatting of other volumes in the series. Quitting the meticulous font tagging might make my work on them faster all the same. --Tar-ba-gan (talk) 14:13, 22 July 2020 (UTC)

B.C. and capitalisation

Hi! Re this: neither of these is correct: {{sc|b.c.}} or {{smaller|b.c.}}. While the former may look correct, it will copy-paste (and appear when CSS small-cap support is not available) as "b.c.". See the documentation at {{sc}} for more details.

The correct template to use here is {{BC}} (B.C.), or if that space is not what you want, {{asc|B.C.}} (B.C.), which will use small caps, but copy-paste as "B.C.". And yes, this does mean the previous use of {{smaller}} was also not ideal! There's also {{AD}} (A.D.). Inductiveload—talk/contribs 09:15, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

@Inductiveload: Hi, thanks for pointing this out! I'll make the fixes ASAP. EggOfReason (talk) 14:40, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

Please do not move Page: and Index: pages

Hi. Please do not move pages in the Index:, Page: and file: namespaces, it causes problems. If you truly think that it needs doing, then please ask an admin to do it. Same applies for a file at Commons where the transcription has started. Thanks. — billinghurst sDrewth 00:20, 13 June 2021 (UTC)

@Billinghurst: My apologies, I thought it would preserve the page's contribution history. EggOfReason (talk) 00:23, 14 June 2021 (UTC)

Hi. It is not about not having them moved, it is about the mechanics. Apologies if I was not sufficiently clear; I gave you the tl;dr overarching statement, not with all the nuances, permutations and combinations.

There is so much wiring with Wikisource's index: and page: ns it is about making assessments of how and what to do. You are correct that these were best moved to the other version, so no issue there, and the retention of the histories. Here it was the other stuff, it was the redirects that then existed, the other pages that needed moving and dealing with the carcase components. I finished the moves with a bot without redirects, and then deleted the index: file and the unneeded pages. Fortunately there were no transclusions of the work, which can be another complication. So, yes we do move, though in consultation and with planning. — billinghurst sDrewth 01:06, 14 June 2021 (UTC)

Oh, we have a section in WS:S for requesting moves. — billinghurst sDrewth 01:09, 14 June 2021 (UTC)

And you have spurred me to start Wikisource:Do not move Index:, Page:, File: pages which has been missing from the armoury. — billinghurst sDrewth 02:18, 14 June 2021 (UTC)