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Constitution of Moldova
[edit]Hello and thanks for trying to correct what you consider to be an error. However, Wikisource aim is not to present "information", our aim is to present various previously published works, and if the original publication contains an error, we do not correct it. The source which you provided is the source for the original text of the constitution, but it is not the source of the English text. The source of the English text is http://www.e-democracy.md/en/legislation/constitution/i/. However, this dispute might be unnecessary anyway, because it seems that the English translation could be copyrighted (see Wikisource:Copyright discussions#Constitution of the Republic of Moldova), and if confirmed, the text will be deleted from Wikisource. --Jan Kameníček (talk) 21:39, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- Are you kidding me or what? The Constitution of Moldova was amended in 2023. Actually, one word was changed - the name of the state language. On what basis do you introduce false information into the text? If you want to keep the outdated, irrelevant text - then create the appropriate page "Outdated text of the Constitution of the Republic of Moldova" or something like that. Leonst (talk) 21:59, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- I will do my best to ignore your hostile tone and will just point to what is quite evident: The header says clearly "Constitution of the Republic of Moldova (1994)". The source of the English text is provided. It is absolutely irrelevant, whether the text is new or old. We do not care whether our texts are up-to-date or outdated. In fact vast majority of our texts are "outdated". We are not Wikipedia and we are not trying to serve up-to-date information, we are just presenting various texts, most of them very old, so that they can be studied as they were originally written. BTW: Many works have several versions, and we can host all of them. So if you have a source of the English text of the 2023 version of the constitution and if that English text is in the public domain, you may create another page with this different version. --Jan Kameníček (talk) 22:10, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- I apologize, esteemed sir. But that is a blatant lie. It is not written anywhere. Leonst (talk) 22:17, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- I have to warn you that such behaviour is not tolerated here and if you do not start talking in a more civilized way, you may be blocked without further warning.
- I have no idea what from my contribution you do not believe to, but I will at least point to WS:WWI#Documentary sources: Documentary sources must be added in their complete form whenever possible, without substantive editorial amendment. The source of these works must be noted in order to allow others to verify that the copy displayed at Wikisource is a faithful reproduction. I suggest you first learn more about the Wikisource environment, rules and customs before you start making any judgments. You may find a lot of useful links in the welcome message above. --Jan Kameníček (talk) 22:50, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- I apologize, esteemed sir. I ask you to have mercy and not block me just because my opinion is not identical to yours. You wrote: "The header says clearly "Constitution of the Republic of Moldova (1994)"". But that's not what it says. I apologize for calling this phenomenon a lie. It seems that it should be called something else. Maybe "alternative truth that does not correspond to the real truth"? Leonst (talk) 22:56, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- I have warned you, so you are blocked for 1 day.
- BTW: you have probably confused the title of the page with the header. If you look at the header, it says "Constitution of the Republic of Moldova (1994)". --Jan Kameníček (talk) 23:01, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- I apologize, esteemed sir. On what grounds did you block me? Leonst (talk) 23:07, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- We keep versions of works separate. If and when we get a copy of the 2023 constitution under a free license, that text would be added at "Constitution of The Republic of Moldova (2023)", the other page moved to "Constitution of The Republic of Moldova (1994)", and "Constitution of The Republic of Moldova" would be made into a {{disambiguation}} page. As of now, we only have one copy (or zero, as it's maybe copyrighted), so disambiguating is unnecessary. — Alien 3
3 3 15:16, 23 November 2024 (UTC)- Of course. But in this case, the article should be renamed, for example, to "Outdated version of the Constitution of Moldova" or "Version of the Constitution of Moldova, valid until March 22, 2023" or something like that, because it is currently misleading. After all, this text is presented as the text of the Constitution of Moldova, although it is not. That is, it is a fake. Or, perhaps, this should be clearly stated in the text itself, so as not to mislead people. Leonst (talk) 13:04, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
- When was the amendment made? ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 19:08, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- In March 2023 Leonst (talk) 22:26, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- When was the amendment made? ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 19:08, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- Of course. But in this case, the article should be renamed, for example, to "Outdated version of the Constitution of Moldova" or "Version of the Constitution of Moldova, valid until March 22, 2023" or something like that, because it is currently misleading. After all, this text is presented as the text of the Constitution of Moldova, although it is not. That is, it is a fake. Or, perhaps, this should be clearly stated in the text itself, so as not to mislead people. Leonst (talk) 13:04, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
- We keep versions of works separate. If and when we get a copy of the 2023 constitution under a free license, that text would be added at "Constitution of The Republic of Moldova (2023)", the other page moved to "Constitution of The Republic of Moldova (1994)", and "Constitution of The Republic of Moldova" would be made into a {{disambiguation}} page. As of now, we only have one copy (or zero, as it's maybe copyrighted), so disambiguating is unnecessary. — Alien 3
- I apologize, esteemed sir. On what grounds did you block me? Leonst (talk) 23:07, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- I apologize, esteemed sir. I ask you to have mercy and not block me just because my opinion is not identical to yours. You wrote: "The header says clearly "Constitution of the Republic of Moldova (1994)"". But that's not what it says. I apologize for calling this phenomenon a lie. It seems that it should be called something else. Maybe "alternative truth that does not correspond to the real truth"? Leonst (talk) 22:56, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- I apologize, esteemed sir. But that is a blatant lie. It is not written anywhere. Leonst (talk) 22:17, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- I will do my best to ignore your hostile tone and will just point to what is quite evident: The header says clearly "Constitution of the Republic of Moldova (1994)". The source of the English text is provided. It is absolutely irrelevant, whether the text is new or old. We do not care whether our texts are up-to-date or outdated. In fact vast majority of our texts are "outdated". We are not Wikipedia and we are not trying to serve up-to-date information, we are just presenting various texts, most of them very old, so that they can be studied as they were originally written. BTW: Many works have several versions, and we can host all of them. So if you have a source of the English text of the 2023 version of the constitution and if that English text is in the public domain, you may create another page with this different version. --Jan Kameníček (talk) 22:10, 22 November 2024 (UTC)