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Again, welcome! Glad to see more fellow Wikipedians getting involved here (I'm quite new to WS myself) Cremastra (talk) 19:43, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
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[edit]Please see Help:Author pages#Copyright_tag. Author pages should indicate why the Author's contributions can legally be hosted here. --EncycloPetey (talk) 17:35, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
1965 tornado photograph
[edit]While I am uncertain about the laws/rules for photographs. A book published between the current public domain year (right now 1928) and the year that this new law took affect (I am guessing it was 1971); the book needed to have its copyright renewed with the government that year or it is in the public domain now.
I am sorry for my lack of looking up the details; my bookmarks are elsewhere and I am somewhat busy. The fuzziness of what I said can be sharpened with 1) the year the copyright needed to be renewed 2) (which would answer for 1)) the link to that book hosted by google that contains the renewals and 3) the knowledge of how photographs fit into this, whether they are in that book or no.
I am thinking that photographs need to be published with that © and a year to be under copyright laws and that one 1) wasn't and 2) probably wasn't renewed when the laws changed.
When they are around, the people at Wikisource:Copyright discussions are very familiar with the laws and that book and where the other information might be; with any luck you did not piss them off too much and they might help.
The tornado photograph was very cool!
- A side note: it is my experience here that the people who care about wikipedia are doing so quietly by adding documentation here that is needed for citations here. Some of them are very prolific here and somewhat terse there. Many of those here who have been here for a long while are from the 'pedia and disgusted with it; those being (for example) the previous "Cool Kids" who for sure there is a bunch of new ones there now.
- The tweet post seemed very disrespectful. I suggest not reproducing the tweets here and being respectful in what might indeed be one of the finest internet old folks homes around. There are some very smart and experienced (that last being a key even to the internet's "elderly" who are not so old probably) people here and most of them would consider the NOAA posts to be relevant, cool and very welcome here. Which was the reason I suggested that you post them here, as well.
- Personally, I kind of like astrology and have adopted it as my favorite of the fuzzy sciences (and disregard psychology or economics). I heard a prediction from a mundane astrologer that with Neptune moving out of Pisces into Aries, that social media is going to all but disappear. Personally, I am holding the door open for that...--RaboKarbakian (talk) 15:38, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
- Hey RaboKarbakian! There was a huge RFC discussion ongoing on the Commons regarding NOAA-based images (see it here), so hundreds of weather-related images have been or are being reassessed. That 1965 tornado photograph on Twin funnels on Palm Sunday (NOAA Photo Library) was actually looked at on the Commons and “confirmed” to be in the public domain: See the discussion here. The main editor reviewing the weather photos, Rlandmann (An EN-Wiki administrator), posted it is in the PD under commons::Template:PD-US-no notice. The only reason the deletion discussion has not closed yet was it was opened by a different editor who has not withdrawn it. On a different note, the NOAA Photo Library is in the public domain as seen in their statement, “Images in the NOAA Digital Library are in the “public domain” and cannot be copyrighted.” WeatherWriter (talk) 16:35, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
- Oh also @RaboKarbakian: I know about the tweets now. I plan to not add any NWS tweets going forward, even though there are a couple which have been cited in peer-reviewed academics and would arguably qualify for Wikisource historical documentation. Anyway, like you said, I don't want to piss off the main editors here. I have nearly 35,000 contributions to various Wikimedia Projects (over 4.5 years of time), editing mostly in the realm of meteorology. That said, I am just a new guy on Wikisource. I wasn't really fighting keeping the tweets too much. Honestly, I was just more or less pissed that asking for help is what led to my edits being audited and several subsequently being proposed for deletion. That is more what caused me to go off, since the new-guy on the block basically got put under a microscope following a help question. Ok, enough of that ranting. I do appreciate the help and advice! I know there are several NOAA things that I can still add. Several of them can be seen here: Category:PD-USGov-NOAA (almost all entirely added/created by myself). I'll probably just restart adding some of the Monthly Weather Review pages and if I need help, I'll just risk the microscope on all my edits again and publicly ask for it. Maybe, with luck, the next time I ask for help, I will actually get help. Well, thanks for the advice! If you have any questions about one of my contributions or creations or just have some comments regarding one of them, don't hesitate to message me! Cheers! WeatherWriter (talk) 03:22, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
- Hey RaboKarbakian! There was a huge RFC discussion ongoing on the Commons regarding NOAA-based images (see it here), so hundreds of weather-related images have been or are being reassessed. That 1965 tornado photograph on Twin funnels on Palm Sunday (NOAA Photo Library) was actually looked at on the Commons and “confirmed” to be in the public domain: See the discussion here. The main editor reviewing the weather photos, Rlandmann (An EN-Wiki administrator), posted it is in the PD under commons::Template:PD-US-no notice. The only reason the deletion discussion has not closed yet was it was opened by a different editor who has not withdrawn it. On a different note, the NOAA Photo Library is in the public domain as seen in their statement, “Images in the NOAA Digital Library are in the “public domain” and cannot be copyrighted.” WeatherWriter (talk) 16:35, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
Some misunderstandings
[edit]Hello. I would like to write a short reaction to your last contribution as WS:Proposed deletions. As it has not much to do with the particular proposed deletions, I decided to write it here.
First misunderstanding is that you take some things as a personal offence although they are not meant so. It could be seen from your first message to me, where you felt deeply offended by the fact that I nominated your work for deletion, and I can read it among the lines in some other contributions at WS:PD too. However, if you think about it, if we really wanted to bite you out of here, we could it in a much quicker way and would not bother with writing various explanations, and I would definitely not write them even after your announcement you are leaving. So believe me, nothing of this kind is not and was not happening.
Another misunderstanding is your conclusion that we do not accept material which has been digitized. We are just quite reluctant to accept purely digital material (and even this has some exceptions, although I personally do not like them). So if you know of any scans of some originally non-digital works, you can surely transcribe them from these scans no matter whether somebody else has digitized them meanwhile. After a short while of searching I came across e. g. National Weather Service forecasting handbook no.1 by the US National Weather Service from 1979 which looks pretty interesting to me. And there are more NWS publications that can be found in HathiTrust.
So, my suggestion is that you take a short break to let things cool down and maybe you will see it from a different perspective in a few days. -- Jan Kameníček (talk) 20:33, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
A little help with the formatting please? Hurricane Clyde (talk) 20:31, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
- Never mind @WeatherWriter, I figured it out. Hurricane Clyde (talk) 20:43, 22 November 2024 (UTC)