User talk:Fish bowl

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Again, welcome! Beeswaxcandle (talk) 18:54, 16 December 2016 (UTC)

Big thanks

Thank you so much for coming over and working through {{japanese missing}}. I appreciate your time, effort and consideration. — billinghurst sDrewth 12:29, 9 January 2017 (UTC)

No problem. Suzukaze-c (talk) 23:58, 9 January 2017 (UTC)

As a general rule ...

As you saw from your addition to table/parse that we are not much for forced widths, we have tended to not fix widths. Part of what we have found is that our output can be on many output devices that and forcing widths has not been advantageous, even in a proportional sense. We have been more likely to utilise max-width or min-width if there is really a need to push something. That said with your general proportioning of three columns it probably won't matter, I just wanted to say early on in the piece, and that it is worthwhile checking how the output may look on a mobile phone; and generally you only need to set two of three percentages, as the third will always be the remaining percentage. — billinghurst sDrewth 04:30, 14 January 2017 (UTC)

From 21 to 118

Hi, I wanted to thank you for your contributions in the proofreading of the Swatow dialect dictionary. I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one interested in preserving this language materials. :) I'm gonna try to complete the « C » chapter. Feel free to correct my modifications and to improve them as you've already did. I've begun using some of your improvements. However, I think that we should avoid as much as possible transcribing the same chapter at the same time, as it could make us do the job twice. :/ Assassas77 (talk) 06:33, 3 February 2017 (UTC)

No problem.

I worked on page 103 because it seemed like there was no progress on it in half a month and I wanted to help you out. :) My other edits have started from the end of the book. Suzukaze-c (talk) 06:41, 3 February 2017 (UTC)

Wikiproject Chinese

Hi !

I see you have been working on Chinese texts. There are currently several ongoing works related to China, but the progress is very slow as there are not many contributors able to work with Chinese, this is rather discouraging. I tried to centralize information in the WikiProject Chinese, so that we may see all the ongoing tasks and join forces to finish some of them faster, pleace consider joining and starting a discussion on what you currently work on! Koxinga (talk) 23:40, 4 June 2017 (UTC)

Template:Ltc tone needs a fix

Your implementation of Template:Ltc tone is broken in that there are two caption components3rd and last are both seen that way. I don't know enough of your intent to be able to fix this, and would appreciate it if you would have a look. Thanks. — billinghurst sDrewth 06:15, 29 July 2017 (UTC)

@Billinghurst: I'm not quite sure what you mean by "caption components". Could you explain more? Suzukaze-c (talk) 06:30, 29 July 2017 (UTC)

mw:Help:Images shows that the last part of an image link is the caption. [[File:ltc tone 8.svg|alt=꜇|陽入|text-bottom|{{{2|}}}]] is not correctly set the 3rd and 5th components are not properly defined and trying to be captions. — billinghurst sDrewth 06:50, 29 July 2017 (UTC)

I don't remember why I added a second parameter and have removed it. Suzukaze-c (talk) 07:04, 29 July 2017 (UTC)

my usage of HTML h_ headers

• good:
  • semantic html!
    • organizational!
  • have actual headers in your epub files!
• bad:
  • i'm not putting in the effort to make them visually faithful
    • i have also replaced visually faithful pseudo-headers with "my html headers"
      • kinda ugly and weird
    • like, i could try to make them visually faithful, but is it worth my time when i have to work around the styles of the default mediawiki skins
      • probably would style them if there weren't default styles, yeah
      • could i remove the "underline" of h2 [monobook], at least? probably
        • h2 (default styles) paired with {{custom rule}} is especially iffy
    • kinda don't want to think about font-size shit tbh
  • i'm using inline css styles to make the text aligned
    • the default left alignment of text really doesn't look good imo
  • using largely non-semantic html everywhere else, probably
  • i haven't asked
    • (related: my scriptorium questions about templatehtml that got nowhere)

Suzukaze-c (talk) 05:28, 19 June 2019 (UTC)

(@User:Kanwenjian, since you dealt with some of my nonsense at Western Mandarin. Suzukaze-c (talk) 00:20, 21 April 2020 (UTC))

(I've reverted your changes for now. Thank you for thinking about the formatting, though. Suzukaze-c (talk) 05:53, 26 April 2020 (UTC))

Wow! But... huh?

I peek at "Recent Changes" every once in a while, and was intrigued by your change summary "(-{{chinese missing}})". Maybe that is something I _might_ be able to do someday.

But then I noticed something wrong(?) with the characters in footnote 2. You have:

世之言兵者祖孫 <氏> 然孫武事吳闔 <廬> 而不見於左傳不知果何時人也.

but when I look I think I see:

世之言兵者祖孫 <武> 然孫武事吳闔 <閭> 而不見於左傳不知果何時人也.

The two characters look 'wrong'? Is that correct? Shenme (talk) 06:53, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

You're right. I copied the text from zh.wikisource and failed to modify this one properly. Good catch. Suzukaze-c (talk) 19:56, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

Message from Ngwuidak

Suzukaze (鈴風？） I am a teochiu speaker. I'd like to spend some of my spare time to make this book concerning Swatow Dialect from A.M. Fielde more readable. I saw you make some revert on my change. let me explain why I change. 1. 巷， that's no problem, it is what it should be. 2. 石豪, According to the pronunciation, it should be 蠔, it means oyster in Teochiu/Swatow. Not sure how to contact you, really appreciate your effort on this book. Thanks Ngwuidak

@Ngwuidak: 汝好, 汝好 ^^ I am 涼風 (但“鈴風”睇起嚟都唔錯喎). I'm happy that you want to work on it too :) Oa ia-si tio-chiu-nang (dang-si boi tann (汗

Honestly, for 異體字, I'm still not sure which is better: being accurate to the book ("𮎨") or correcting the character according to modern usage ("巷").

I don't really mind either way, so if you want to write the modern character, then I will just record the 異體字 on my user page.

Suzukaze-c (talk) 23:51, 16 August 2020 (UTC)

Suzukaze, I am a bit curious on how the original book of Swatow Dialect from A.M. Fielde turned into the wiki markup? what OCR you are using to turn those international phonetic alphabetic character from picture to utf-8 character? I want to know this, because I am also trying to make this more readable. http://bible.fhl.net/gbdoc/ob/nob.html?book=145. Thanks ahead Ngwuidak

@Ngwuidak: 全靠手動輸入（汗

If the PDF has an "OCR text layer", Wikisource can load it automatically when you start a new Page:.

Then I fix it (the OCR for the Teochew is not good, so I delete it and re-input it), and transform it with JavaScript (meta:User:Suzukaze-c/global.js, CTRL+F of_the_Swatow_dialect).

If OCR is powerful enough to recognize 白話字, I want to know about it quq

Suzukaze-c (talk) 00:05, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

350bot

Hi Suzukaze-c,

I noticed that your bot request got archived without resolution. I'm sorry we're doing so poorly at following up such issues.

Since there were no actual objections to the proposal, and it seems like an eminently sensible one, I suggest you file a request for a bot flag for 350bot at WS:AN#Bureaucrat requests, referencing this thread and Wikisource:Scriptorium/Archives/2020-07#User:350bot. We're a little short on 'crats these days, so it may take a while, but it should get processed eventually (and AN doesn't get auto-archived like WS:S is). --Xover (talk) 08:42, 17 September 2020 (UTC)

templatestyles

Just today I first came across usage of templatestyles, and have asked someone using it to explain more to me. Then I came across Template talk:BookCSS and your two links. Do you know of other description of templatestyles elsewhere? Shenme (talk) 09:44, 27 December 2020 (UTC)

@Shenme: Xover's writeup is much better than anything I could have written. Suzukaze-c (talk) 08:57, 28 December 2020 (UTC)

Who's who in China 3e

thanks for noticing my confusion. working with user:Gamaliel, we will try to clean this up, and create some english language biographies. any help with chinese characters gratefully accepted. cheers. Slowking4 亞 Rama's revenge 02:22, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

A suggestion about "A Manual of the Foochow Dialect In Twenty Lessons"

Hello Suzukaze, I am a person who is interested in the language revitalization project of Eastern Min. I recently noticed that you are editing the page of A Manual of the Foochow Dialect In Twenty Lessons. A few years ago, I started digitizing this book and put part of my digitized text on Wikisource. Later, I went to work on another project, and this plan was shelved. I started digitizing it again a few months ago and I've done about 70% of digitization so far (not on Wikisource). Do you have any idea to continue and complete its digitization? If so, we can choose to cooperate, so as to avoid duplication of the digitization work.Züsiêng (talk) 14:28, 30 June 2022 (UTC)

@Züsiêng: Hi! The pages (wiki) for the pages (book) are listed at Index:A Manual of the Foochow Dialect in Twenty Lessons.pdf. In the past I already copied the text from User:Züsiêng/A Manual of the Foochow Dialect in 20 lessons to the corresponding pages. Fish bowl (talk) 16:57, 30 June 2022 (UTC)

Index:KAL801Finalreport.pdf

Hi, the CVR transcript in this, contains Korean language, Any chance you could take a look? Thanks in advance. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 12:41, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

@ShakespeareFan00: Sorry, I'm not very good at Korean, so I don't feel comfortable trying to proofread it. Fish bowl (talk) 18:22, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

Chinese street names

There's a few more articles in JSBRAS volumes 42, 45, 46, see the index here: http://www.mbras.org.my/file/List%20of%20Articles.pdf

In case you are keen on more things to transcribe ;)

Kbseah (talk) 19:44, 12 October 2023 (UTC)

Composition of 漢字

I'm searching for a list of the composition of the most used 漢字 (maybe the Tōyō kanji or something similar for the Chinese variants). Since you have such lists on your homepage, would you happen to know how to get a more comprehensive list? SebastianHelm (talk) 14:51, 12 January 2024 (UTC)

i what? are you referring to [1] and to a list of IDS decompositions?

I suppose you could make your own by finding the intersection of a list of common characters + an IDS dataset such as that maintained by Andrew West? Fish bowl (talk) 22:53, 12 January 2024 (UTC)

Formatting

First of all, I would really like to thank for adding here the text of Index:Cambodian system of writing and beginning reader.pdf, it is extremely useful! At the same time I would like to point out some things which are not in accordance with our practice or with WS:Style guide. We usually try to mimic original formatting of the work, within some reasonable limits, of course. For example We do not introduce bold letters where they were not in the original. We do not use html tags for formatting, including formatting of chapter titles, we prefer our formatting templates. We usually do not indent individual paragraphs.

I have also two notes to the IPA template: 1) it quite unnecessarily introduces different typeface and 2) you used it also for non-IPA characters, such as "ñ". -- Jan Kameníček (talk) 10:10, 10 March 2024 (UTC)

formatting, bold letters, etc — I interpret points 2 (Text formatting) and 3 (Page layout) conversely; I think we have different understandings of "reasonable limits". In addition, the reference to bold letters is unclear to me. Are you referring to my usage of definition lists? As for headers, I find HTML headers + the appropriate CSS styles to be much easier on the mind than keeping a list of headache-inducing arcane font-size instructions to copy-and-paste.

indenting paragraphs — I assure you that I do not do this, and would not do this.

IPA — IPA is obviously being used, what with the square brackets and such. My assumption is that ɲ was inconvenient to typeset, a "correction" which I am not comfortable with making. I've seen worse IPA manglings (ʒ→wikt:ㄋ!) for Chinese Wikisource, which I carefully mark with SIC.

Fish bowl (talk) 10:21, 10 March 2024 (UTC)

Bold letters: e. g. in the header of the table here.

Indentation: e.g. here. --Jan Kameníček (talk) 10:34, 10 March 2024 (UTC)