Wikisource:Scriptorium/Help

How to deal with newspaper articles without a title?

The title explains it all. I'm currently working on Issue 45 of the The Appari News, recently finishing page 2 of that issue. Although I want to transclude that page to the mainspace, it doesn't have a title. How should I deal with it? Norbillian (talk) 16:33, 14 February 2025 (UTC)

I might do the same thing we do with title-less poems and use part of the first line as a substitute title. --EncycloPetey (talk) 17:23, 14 February 2025 (UTC)

Thanks for the idea! Norbillian (talk) 17:47, 14 February 2025 (UTC)

I believe we talked about that not too long ago. (rummages through archives) Ah, There. Reached the same conclusion there too, first words. — Alien  3
3 3 18:10, 14 February 2025 (UTC)

Request for assistance in transcribing Mythology among the Hebrews and its historical development

I am a newcomer to English Wikisource and is working on Mythology among the Hebrews and its historical development. Though I had some experience transcribing texts on the Chinese Wikisource (孔乙己 and 兩地書 Chapter 2), I am new to working on English texts and cover pages. I am not sure if I had done the following right:

1. The Internet Archive said something like "not 100% sure, but 99% public domain." Is that considered enough?
2. I saw some works (e.g. the King James Bible) that use sophisticated syntax to represent the cover page. In reference to them, I tried to transcribe one of the cover pages. Have I done it right?
3. How should I structure my main namespace pages? Should I arrange them in Chapters (e.g. Mythology among the Hebrews and its historical development/Chapter 1? How about the index and appendixes?

Please tell me if I can improve my transcription. I will be online again at around 09:30 UTC. 1F616EMO (talk) 23:51, 18 February 2025 (UTC)

1F616EMO: Thank you for contributing! It’s always nice to see more people working on projects here. As for your questions: (1) The Internet Archive has a generic message because they don’t want to state for certain a fact which they have not verified. I myself can tell you that your file is definitely in the public domain. (2) Your title page looks great! You really have a good grasp of which templates to use. (3) The normal chapter structure (/Chapter 1–/Chapter 10) is fine, followed by Excursus, Appendix 1, Appendix 2, and Index. TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 02:55, 21 February 2025 (UTC)

Thank you for helping me. FYI, the content page is here: Mythology among the Hebrews and its historical development, and I've transcribed the Translator's Preface and part of Appendix 2: The Legend of Samson. Please check and see if there are any flaws. 1F616EMO (talk) 13:01, 21 February 2025 (UTC)

@TE(æ)A,ea.: And more on the Translator's Preface: I can't find the letter "d" with a short underline (like a dot diacritic but longer), so I used a normal underscore for that and added a transcription note on this. Is this appropriate? 1F616EMO (talk) 13:03, 21 February 2025 (UTC)

• 1F616EMO: A few notes: (1) The gap at the beginning of paragraphs is considered to be a publisher’s addition, and thus is not replicated (that is, there should be no {{gap}} before paragraphs). (2) The section titles should be included on the transcluded chapters; thus the “TRANSLATOR’S PREFACE.” and custom rule here should be included. (3) The references at the bottom of the page are set in smaller text, so the {{smallrefs}} template is appropriate to use. (4) When depicting foreign-language text, you can use specialized template for better display. For example, {{Arabic}} for Arabic text, {{Hebrew}} for Hebrew text, and {{polytonic}} for Ancient Greek text. (You can also use these template to help display medial, initial, &c. forms of characters.) As for the d character, I would recommend ḏ, which is a d with a combining macron below. While d also works, ḏ looks a bit prettier in my opinion. TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 16:51, 21 February 2025 (UTC)

  Thank you for correcting. I've fixed all occurrences. And thank you for finding the "ḏ" for me. 1F616EMO (talk) 22:47, 21 February 2025 (UTC)

  However, I am not sure if I should remove the {{gap}} in "London: January 1877." 1F616EMO (talk) 22:53, 21 February 2025 (UTC)

  • That is more of a personal choice; I usually do so if there are two lines. Similarly, the right-justified signature of the translator on that page could be offset from the right edge, but that is not technically necessary. The name should not be bolded, I think; that appears to be the same font weight as other capital letters. You’ve picked a somewhat complicated work, owing to the diacritics. The ones in the list with equals signs are right, but ǎěǒ should be ăĕŏ, and chȃṭȇph should be châṭêph. Even if you’re still asking about changes, feel free to mark the pages as proofread. TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 23:22, 21 February 2025 (UTC)

    Thank you for pointing out the errors. I've chosen this work because I am working on Chinese Wikipedia's draft of Samson, and was fed up with Internet Archive's reader and somewhat poor automatic OCR. I've marked the last page of the Translator's Preface proofread, and I will proofread the other pages when I have spare time. 1F616EMO (talk) 02:14, 22 February 2025 (UTC)

@TE(æ)A,ea.: Oh god, I found a duplication: Index:Mythology Among the Hebrews.djvu. How should I merge the two? 1F616EMO (talk) 02:19, 22 February 2025 (UTC)

Request the pages to be moved at Wikisource:Scriptorium#Repairs_(and_moves) and then an admin can move the pages with history between the two for you., MarkLSteadman (talk) 12:20, 22 February 2025 (UTC)

@MarkLSteadman: Could you help me to make the request? I may not have time in these two days (UTC +8). Also, I am not sure which source file should be used. 1F616EMO (talk) 12:31, 22 February 2025 (UTC)

Creating a section with the name in the title "===Index:Mythology among the Hebrews and its historical development.djvu===" and say something along the lines of "Merge Index:Mythology among the Hebrews and its historical development.djvu into the existing index file Index:Mythology Among the Hebrews.djvu." MarkLSteadman (talk) 12:38, 22 February 2025 (UTC)

acceptable source?

is this an acceptable source for Remembrance of Things Past? ltbdl (talk) 14:28, 23 February 2025 (UTC)

• ltbdl: No, that is a later edition which is copyright (second page) 2016 by the company which made the new edition. We would need an earlier edition without a copyright on the modern editing. TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 16:50, 23 February 2025 (UTC)

Formatting help for Page:JFK Assassination File 104-10105-10271.pdf/2

I am needing some formatting help with Page:JFK Assassination File 104-10105-10271.pdf/2, specifically:

• Justification for "A" and "B" on the page.
• How to correctly justify and add the cursive writing for "1" and "2", with respect to the rest of the text of "1" and "2".

I plan to do a lot of JFK assassination files (WP:JFKFiles), and a lot have various weird justifications as well as written-in cursive writing prior to their public release. I want to learn the best on how to do that. So, if someone would not mind helping fix those and explain what they exactly did for each of those, it would be much appreciated. That way, I can duplicate it in the future for all the other JFK documents...cough–the very next page in that document–cough.

Thank you! WeatherWriter (talk) 19:31, 23 February 2025 (UTC)

@WeatherWriter

For the justification of "A" and "B", I think your best option is Template:Hanging indent, which I have included in the example you provided (you can also obtain the same result with Template:Dent). Note that you will have to adjust the indent amount on a case by case basis though. I also used {{em}} for the spaces near "A" and "B" because hanging indent will automatically justify the text, and will mess with these spaces if they are just conventional "presses of the spacebar". You can use an alternative fixed, non-breaking space if you prefer. You will also want to use Template:Phantom if you are using this hanging indent approach (included in example).

For the justification of "1" and "2", I am not sure where this sits on the style guide. Indentation at the start of a paragraph is rarely reproduced, and I am not sure if this would count as a reasonable exception to maintain these indents. If it were okay, the simplest way would just be to use, e.g. {{em|2}} although you could also use Template:Dent if you were determined to use a template.

For the cursive font, I am not sure what is best. Maybe just Template:Overscript, and just italicize the overscripted text. That should at least keep the cursive near the text where it was written in the original. The other option might be sidenotes, although I realize all the cursive is not necessarily on the side of the documents.

Also, as a final note, to get font sizes larger than "larger", there are additional "xx-" versions of the template. These are preferred, rather than just nesting "larger" multiple times. I have replaced this for the title, but it would be good to do the same in the footer.

Hope this helps, TeysaKarlov (talk) 20:13, 23 February 2025 (UTC)

Someone else made an edit and the way it looks now seems fine to me. Note that we don't have to have a perfectly photographic reproduction of the page, but we should definitely include all semantically-meaningful markup and generally try to match a lot of the style if we can. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 20:13, 23 February 2025 (UTC)

A good example of something that would be more photographic than typographic would be the change I just made to remove some line breaks that were only on the original page because of the size of the paper itself, not because there was some meaningful reason to make a line break there. Just like how in the subsequent paragraphs, you shouldn't introduce line breaks for all the places where text just wraps around due to the physical dimensions of the medium. Figuring out what is non-meaningful or what is cosmetic and can be reproduced is by nature a value judgement, so there will inevitably be some disagreement. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 20:20, 23 February 2025 (UTC)

Thank you all! I really appreciated the comments and things I can now research and learn about using! WeatherWriter (talk) 03:40, 24 February 2025 (UTC)

Can we post partially-recovered books?

Hello, I found that the late w:John Tranter published a novel under the CC-BY license entitled Black Gold. I have recovered a third of the book from the Internet Archive and posted it in my userspace. Is there a way to find the remaining chapters? Joofjoof (talk) 23:53, 25 February 2025 (UTC)

You would need to make a case for hosting it here, and get the community to agree. The novel you describe is self-published and is digital-original. That combination of features usually means it would not be hosted on Wikisource (See our policy WS:WWI). --EncycloPetey (talk) 23:59, 25 February 2025 (UTC)

Formatting help with rule and block right

Can someone help me format the page Page:Memo regarding Dismissal Without Prejudice of Prosecution of Mayor Eric Adams.pdf/1. Specifically, I need to get the top bit to be aligned properly and have the rule go across the whole page. So far I've only been able to get one of those to occur at a time. ToxicPea (talk) 00:51, 26 February 2025 (UTC)

I'd also appreciate it if someone could get me a blue doj logo. ToxicPea (talk) 00:53, 26 February 2025 (UTC)

Since the rule is inside the right block, the rule will never clear the image. You would need to either split the right block, or use a format that puts the image into a table, for example. --EncycloPetey (talk) 01:22, 26 February 2025 (UTC)

Is there any way I can split the right block and still have the text aligned properly? I've tried and I can't figure it out. ToxicPea (talk) 01:24, 26 February 2025 (UTC)

Not sure. I also tried splitting the template, but did not find a simple solution. I think you might need to use a table. --EncycloPetey (talk) 02:38, 26 February 2025 (UTC)

Any chance someone would be able to make a template for a rule that could be placed in an alignment block? Or maybe an an alignment block with a rule in it? ToxicPea (talk) 04:09, 26 February 2025 (UTC)

The rule would still be confined to the dimensions of the block, and that's the issue you're facing here. The block's dimensions are being determined by the width required to display the text. The rule then extends to fill that space, and only that space as determined by the text. To give the rule more width, it can't be contained inside that block. --EncycloPetey (talk) 04:39, 26 February 2025 (UTC)

I think I figured out it out. I just put a {{phantom|Office of the Deputy Attorney General}} inside the second block. Now I just need the blue doj logo. ToxicPea (talk) 04:55, 26 February 2025 (UTC)

I have added a blue DOJ seal to the page. DraftSaturn15 (talk) 22:38, 26 February 2025 (UTC)

Duplicate ID lint

In ShakespeareFan00's reply, it is mentioned that a function called "Duplicate ID" lint can be used to find out duplicate anchors within texts. However, I don't find much information on that function — is it some sort of CSS code or so? I would be grateful if someone can explain.廣九直通車 (talk) 04:26, 27 February 2025 (UTC)

Go to Special:LintErrors, it's in the first section. The direct link is Special:LintErrors/duplicate-ids — Alien  3
3 3 07:21, 27 February 2025 (UTC)

nopt extra line

The template {{nopt}} is now inserting an empty row into tables. See, for example, the top of Page:An introduction to philosophy (IA Introductiontoph00brig 0).pdf/14. --EncycloPetey (talk) 20:23, 27 February 2025 (UTC)

Fixed. Just add an extra |- in the header before the nopt. ToxicPea (talk) 22:30, 27 February 2025 (UTC)

That may fix it in practical terms, but that's also the sort of thing likely to be auto removed as part of cleanup, since the syntax is wrong. --EncycloPetey (talk) 22:48, 27 February 2025 (UTC)

Nevertheless, this is the syntax specified in Help:Page_breaks#Tables_across_page_breaks. Arcorann (talk) 05:18, 28 February 2025 (UTC)

How to download a whole work

Hello all. I have just finished proofreading The Chronicles of Early Melbourne (if anyone felt like validating, please be my guest...) I now wish to download the entire work in pdf format so that I can do some more efficient searching within the work than is possible on Wikisource. However, when I attempt to download - whether the button in the top right hand corner in mainspace or the sidebar link, I just get 77KB of the title page, whereas I want the whole work, please! There are some cryptic remarks from @Billinghurst 7 years ago which seems to be exactly what I am experiencing, but they don't allow me to work out what I should do to rectify my situation. Alternatively, is the slightly worrying remark from @EncycloPetey back in 2019 the answer? If so, in order to have a full work epub, we have to graft the TOC into the first page? I suppose I could do this temporarily, download and revert - otherwise it's going to look awful! Thanks. CharlesSpencer (talk) 10:13, 3 March 2025 (UTC)

Having a TOC on the main page has been relatively common practice, and the {{AuxTOC}} template is there for when the chapters are not listed in the source. If the subpages are not listed on that page, I don't know how the tool is supposed to find them. — Alien  3
3 3 12:29, 3 March 2025 (UTC)

Thank you for this - I have successfully downloaded the whole work in pdf with your help, having put the ToC in the first page. If that is common practice (which I was not aware of) I will happily leave it there.

As an aside, may I say that - as a not stupid person, and a Wikisource editor of 15 years' standing with several complex templates to his name - I do think it is hugely important to be helpful to the purpose of a question rather than express surprise at someone's ignorance - sometimes, frankly, in order to demonstrate one's own superior knowledge. It is neither helpful, nor pleasant to be on the receiving end of. This was not a question born out of idleness - I had spent some time researching the Scriptorium archives, whence I cited two examples which really didn't answer my question, but were instead slightly cryptic or oblique, or based on a supposition of knowledge which the question plainly didn't support. Yet Alien's passive aggressive response is "how [else is] the tool...supposed to find them". If I knew that, why on earth would I have asked the question? A simple "Do this and this will happen", or "Sticking the ToC on the title page will give the tool the info it needs" in this case - is what this context called for. Researching further in Help:Preparing for export, I find absolutely no trace of "Put the ToC in the first page so the Tool knows what to include". Instead I find

☐ Do make sure that either:

1. ☐ Every page you want in the export is linked from the root page, or
2. ☐ Every page you want in the export is linked from a page that is linked from the root page and is inside a container with the class ws-summary (see {{AuxTOC}} or {{export TOC}})

which makes a lot of sense to someone who already knows the answer, but very little/zero to someone seeking the answer. This is unfortunate, since the title of the namespace is Help: not Oxymoron: (there - a little touch of passive aggressive intellectual superiority (considerably more in sorrow than in anger) to illustrate my point.) I shall now edit Help:Preparing for export to be more practically helpful.

Please do not think that I am not grateful for all the help that numerous people have freely given me over the decade and a half that I have been an editor - I am, and my contribution to Wikisource would be nowhere without them and their help. However, may I make a heartfelt plea to the most experienced editors who make the whole undertaking function not to be casually cutting in their responses but instead to attempt helpfully to answer all questions? It will take an extra 1% of effort, yet I believe will compound considerably to the benefit of all Wikisource participants - and crucially, will aid in the recruitment of new editors. If I were a noob and saw the cutting sort of response that my most basic of questions - "How do I download it?" - received, I would probably have given up and gone home long since. Thank you. CharlesSpencer (talk) 15:22, 14 March 2025 (UTC)

CharlesSpencer there is a similar question, due greatly to the long "helpful" speel that appears when you do this thing. That thing is to follow a link from a commons upload of djvu or whatever that has the s:Index:{{PAGENAME}} link in the proper place in the book template.

The answer to that question is to use the "Create" link at the uppermost right of the page. That answer is terse and when I typed it, full of happiness because I figured it out without help and felt on this occasion a bit superior (which was a feeling I did not often have then).

I mention that here because for those who do not read documentation, terse is so good. Lack of terse in documentation is the reason I don't read it. Terse is like pulling a bandaid off quickly, while reading documentation is like soaking it in water, slowly curling the edge up, taking an aspirin or something to kill pain, soaking it again until you forget what you wanted to do that required that bandaid to be removed.

That documentation you get by following the link from the djvu file to here is the enemy of actually making the Index page and accomplishing proof-reading. I'm going to defend User:Billinghurst the wikisourcerer (I am not defending Billinghurst the escalation bot, R.I.P.!) because I learned a lot, a very lot, from that terse sourcer. One thing being the endpaper hack (see User:RaboKarbakian/The Other Style Guide/Endpapers; I think I used {{bc}} in Main or something equally against the rules. That hack was Billinghursts solution to the argument that ensued (which is not what an escalation bot does at all).

Anyone doing anything of a collaborative nature anywhere, needs to be aware that there are a lot of different kinds of people and to put personal offense on a back burner until it is clear that there is really good reason to have that offense.--RaboKarbakian (talk) 15:47, 14 March 2025 (UTC)

Hi RaboKarbakian - thank you for your helpful contribution. If I may make an observation with respect to your final - and very valid - point, I have not taken personal offense at all. I have finally - after many years of feeling this - spoken up about a cultural behaviour which has, in my experience of 15 years on the site, been growing slowly over time. Interestingly, Alien333 appears to have been a WS editor since only 1st December 2023, yet has seemingly picked up on, and adopted, this cultural vibe in only 15 months. This cannot be of benefit to the WS project long-term as it risks alienating future editors (unintentional alien pun there!). I don't think there's anything unique to WS about this, BTW. It is (quite) a common behaviour in technical/technocratic circles where technical knowledge is assumed. That works fine on the wiki of the Institute of Electrical Engineers (assuming such a thing exists), where a base load (intentional pun this time!) of knowledge can reasonably be assumed, but much less so on a public project.

May I try to illustrate my point in another way? IRL, I belong to a mutual which has existed since 1874. If it still behaved today as it did in 1874 - without any cultural adjustment since then - it would be dead, buried and forgotten. As it is, it is in vibrant good health. In the last five years alone - just 3% of its lifespan to date - it has consciously changed its corporate "tone" to a less formal mode after canvassing members, it has updated its logo to be fresher and more browser friendly, and it has generally updated itself, I would say more rapidly than it ever has before (my father has been a member since before I was born, so I have a longer view than some other members might) - all to stay relevant to the modern world, and crucially to be able to continue to recruit new members. WS will always need new members, but it may need to change itself culturally in order to accommodate them. If it doesn't, it risks withering on the vine as retirees are not replaced by new participants.

You are - again! - absolutely right that terseness is the natural mode of expression of some people, and can often be a highly efficient form of communication. Absolutely nothing wrong with that. And Billinghurst is both a master of succinct expression and very probably one of the main reasons I am still on the site at all after a decade and a half. Some terseness can also be due to very reasonable frustration with the TLDR; crowd. I absolutely do not subscribe to the TLDR; vibe (in fact it really annoys me), whereby idleness and lack of intellectual curiosity can be effectively excused by using somebody else's goodwill, time and energy instead. Also, TLDR;ers tend not to learn from their initial exploitation of others' knowledge, and so come again and again to the trough, selfishly repaying those who help them only with further demands on their time. However, when I, as an experienced user, and after meaningful research cannot find the answer to a fairly basic question, something is surely empirically wrong, would you not agree?

Today, I came across another unintentionally unhelpful "answer": Template:Anchor link has the cryptic optional parameter 3, "subpage = name of different subpage of the work, where the anchor is on a different subpage". This is illustrated without any context at all by reference to two complex index-like pages, Page:A Compendium of Irish Biography.djvu/617 and A Compendium of Irish Biography/Authorities. I have literally no more awareness of the purpose of parameter 3 than I had before I went to the documentation!

I think I have taken more than enough of your time with my reply, so I will end there. Thanks again for contributing to the conversation. CharlesSpencer (talk) 13:42, 15 March 2025 (UTC)

I am deeply sorry for what I said. There was no intent on my part, in any way, to express surprise at someone's ignorance - sometimes, frankly, in order to demonstrate one's own superior knowledge. What I was trying to say, and I visibly failed quite badly at it, and sorry for that, is that, from a technical standpoint, I don't know a reliable way of answering the question "what is part of this work?" that does not rely on a user giving the list (it would be nice if we could find one, but I don't know of any), so, yes, there has to be a ToC on the main page (this to answer your question: If so, in order to have a full work epub, we have to graft the TOC into the first page?). The intended meaning was essentially:

• Put an auxtoc on the main page if the works are not listed
• Yes, I do think we don't have an alternative

On what Help:Preparing for export says: Every page you want in the export is linked from the root page, in saying that the rest has to be linked from the first page, is trying to imply that it should have a table of contents (to contain the links). And, you're right, it does it badly. We have a chronic issue with documentation.

The irony is, that I wholeheartedly agree on the importance of a welcoming environment, without the sort of biting I have just contributed to. As you say yourself, I was not two years ago in the position of new user coming along and getting bitten occasionally (and getting discouraged by that), and have noticed other instances of biting here and there (and tried to—well not prevent, that's not the right word, but indicate to the biter that it was suboptimal behaviour). I think that it is one of the key problems of a wiki community.

I have previously noticed I have difficulties communicating with others, especially figuring out what subtext people read in what, since essentially forever. This predates, by a lot, my involvement with WS. I had previously assumed that it wasn't that bad, and that it would not be much of an issue to my contributing. It does not give me an excuse to be rude, and so as I am unintentionally rude and I fail to compensate, perhaps I should just shut up; keep proofreading and avoid discussions. — Alien  3
3 3 18:32, 15 March 2025 (UTC)

Honestly, I cannot see anything that looks like some demontration of superior knowledge or whatever... The original answer was brief, but absolutely neutral and polite. --Jan Kameníček (talk) 10:46, 16 March 2025 (UTC)

Line break issue

On Facts, Observations, and Conjectures Relative to the Generation of the Opossum of North-America, there are some pages with unwanted paragraph breaks, I believe from me using Hyphenated Word Start/End in footnotes. SnakesOfWest (talk) 18:40, 11 March 2025 (UTC)

No, it's not that. The problem is that when you add a <ref follow="...">...</ref>, you leave a paragraph break between the end of the page and the ref, like so:

... and this is the end of this page's last paragraph

<ref follow="...">...</ref>

You shouldn't do that, because when it is transcluded, although the ref follow="..." gets moved somewhere else, the empty paragraph stays, so you get something like this:

... and this is the end of this page's last paragraph

[empty paragraph where the ref used to be]

and this is the start of the next page

Which is what create the break. So, to fix, just remove the break before the ref=follows at the end of pages, e.g. like this. (note: when linking to templates, I believe you will find {{tl}} useful.) — Alien  3
3 3 18:53, 11 March 2025 (UTC)

Thank you. SnakesOfWest (talk) 19:04, 11 March 2025 (UTC)

Index "broken"?

For the book: The Country of the Pointed Firs, the source .djvu is fine, but the Wikisource index seems to be broken. When I click on "Source" at the top of the title page of the book, it displays this error: Lua error in Module:Proofreadpage_index_template at line 516: data for mw.loadData contains unsupported data type 'function'. Oddly, this apparently occurs only with the most recent edit to the index of this book in August 2022 (here) which simply added a Monthly Challenge category template; previous versions seem to display the index ok. I didn't want to just blindly revert this last edit, since I don't understand how it would cause this error. Harris7 (talk) 22:05, 11 March 2025 (UTC)

I do not see any errors at Index:The Country of Pointed Firs - Jewett - 1896.djvu. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 22:09, 11 March 2025 (UTC)

Presumably because I made a "null edit" moments before you visited the page. --EncycloPetey (talk) 22:11, 11 March 2025 (UTC)

See the discussion at Wikisource:Scriptorium#Index lua issue. --EncycloPetey (talk) 22:09, 11 March 2025 (UTC)

Replacing unsourced texts

I'm currently proofreading Index:The Ball and the Cross.djvu. At some point I'll need to start transcluding it into the main namespace. The Ball and the Cross is currently occupied by an unsourced version of the same novel. Would it be appropriate to simply replace the unsourced text by transclusions, or should the unsourced version be preserved? Bloated Dummy (talk) 23:43, 14 March 2025 (UTC)

If the edition is the same, then yes. If the scan edition differs from the existing copy, then the answer becomes more complicated. --EncycloPetey (talk) 01:13, 15 March 2025 (UTC)

PG, as they are wont to, do not give a source or date, but from comparing it appears to be the same edition. The only differences I can see are exactly the sort of stuff PG would take the freedom of changing. (Plus, this is a PG ebook, but not from DP. The DP ones are the only ones that are close to being faithful to something.) So, I think this is the same edition, in which case, yes, you can just replace it, and many thanks for doing so! — Alien  3
3 3 09:20, 15 March 2025 (UTC)

Alright, thanks for checking! Bloated Dummy (talk) 13:41, 15 March 2025 (UTC)